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Re: Door Step Remembrance
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:36 GMT (UK) »
I did go out but would you believe it,the dustbin men were collecting and assembling bins on the corner for the actual container vehicle to come .
Not far from me.I was getting very angry.!


They have their job to do - I don't think you have any right to be angry.
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Once again our town had a short video piece which included the Last Post from the Sunday Service and ‘When You Go Home ...’ both delivered by young people.
A very moving part today, was the playing of photographs and resumés of local men who had died. That was heartbreaking.
One had a familiar surname and looking at him he was so like a family we know - lots of males in that family. I later found a published tree and he was the great grandfather (and great great grandfather) of the young men we know. The likeness passed down. Again, quite emotional.
Our town council , I think, has really tried to make it a time of solemn remembrance for its people.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Mike , Bury Council have a web site, naturally .
It advised us to commemorate Remembrance Sunday and Armistice Day  ( today)  at home.’ and observe the two minutes silence there .
 
It was a Nationwide gesture to stand on your doorstep to observe  the two minutes silence .Well publicised.
So why were the bin men wheeling bins about , shouting above the noise the
 machinery makes as it tipped the bins up ——at eleven O’ clock?
Actually for quite a time ,  the  collection point is at the top of the road not far from me .
The bins are collected earlier, then the lorry comes ,the bins emptied and returned .It us a pretty quick operation ,two minutes would not have seriously delayed them .

I really think, following their own advice the council ought to have issued a directive about the  observance of the two minutes silence ,to their employees.
I did not do anything about the anger I felt ,just retired inside .
I can feel how I like .
As far as I know Mike we do not as yet have any thought police or do you know different?
As well as Armistice Day it is a hundred years since The Unknown Warrior ,brought from a battlefield, was interred in Westminster Abbey .
Something pretty important in our country’s history.
What did you do at 11 O’Clock on November The Eleventh .?
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 11 November 20 22:06 GMT (UK) »

What did you do at 11 O’Clock on November The Eleventh .?
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I was doing something.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 12 November 20 00:47 GMT (UK) »
What did you do at 11 O’Clock on November The Eleventh .?
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Both days, stopped working on security improvements at home 5 minutes early, made a cup of Coffee, went and sat down at the front of my house, and reminisced about life.
I wondered about the 4 unidentified "Unknown soldiers" whose bodied were picked in 1920, and if anyone had thought of attempting to extract DNA from the remains, to try and ascertain who they actually were, as, like us, there must be families who still do not know what happened to related unidentified or missing servicemen. We have one, Frederick Bruce. Killed 14 Apr 1918, Belgium.

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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 November 20 09:49 GMT (UK) »
An article about the Scottish Womens Hospitals in Serbia during the Great War, the British government didn't want their services, or give them the vote! so they went elsewhere,

https://archiveandlibrary.rcsed.ac.uk/special-collections/scottish-womens-hospitals-for-foreign-service

Serbia play Scotland tonight in Belgrade.

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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 November 20 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Wilfred Owen ,the war Poet, was killed just before the end of WW1
It took a few days for news to get to families in those far off days
The bells of Shrewsbury  Abbey ,very close to Owen’s home on Monkmoor Road,were ringing to celebrate the end of the war, when the telegram
arrived ,notifying his family of his death.
Just days before  the  end —-
Sometime in the night of 31 October / 1 November.1918.
I have been in the house and his little attic bedroom ,we were standing at  the  roadside ,looking at it when  the family who lived there started packing a big 4x4 for their holiday.
I apologised for looking at their home ,but was Invitrd in.
Said no at first ,it seemed such an intrusion ,but was urged to as they liked people to be able to see it
Right at the top of the house in the attic really .
The son of the family  had just got I think a double first  in English at Cambridge.
It was just as it had been in Owen’s time .Liittle iron bed .
His memorial,on the  Abbey  lawns ,a sort of section of a trench ,low.
We later on a holiday in France walked along the canal where  he was killed
and visited his grave which with some others us in the village  Churchyard at Ors.
How agonising it must have been for families whose men were killed right at the very end ,just a few hours less and they would have survived.
Joy that it was all over, then those last telegrams .
Viktoria.

Skoosh your post just pipped mine, yes,we don’t hear much about the war in the Balkans which given Germany’s flimsy excuse to start WW1,-assassination of The Grand Duke and his wife , was instrumental.
The Balkans States were very unstable ,did it in History at school.
Such long long feuds some from as far back as Alexander The Great !
Revenge being a key factor.
Wonder why the Nurses were not wanted,that seems insane!
I can’t bring the article up ,but will look into it ,most probably is in one or other of my “ War Books”, !
I have one specifically about Nurses .From memory though mostly re zTge Western front and Gallipoli .
Thanks.Viktoria.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 November 20 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Good idea Flattybasher but somehow I don't think it will be allowed, I assume there is  only 1 soldiers remains in the casket

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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 12 November 20 10:21 GMT (UK) »
It will be known where the remains if the other soldiers were re buried though.
I think the fact that THE soldier in the tomb is unknown is what gives hope to all those whose men have no known grave ,they can hope he is theirs.
The location where he was disinterred was a secret , so no one could think he was not theirs,if it was known theirs had been killed  in Belgium but the unknown soldier dis interred in France,can’t be my son etc.
To not know —— no place to visit ,even if families could have afforded to go.
That is very hard.
But I see what you mean about the others .
Viktoria.
Do you know where in Belgium Flattybasher,where killed and where buried..?
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