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Offline tinkerbell5

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Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« on: Sunday 08 November 20 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I'm really struggling with locating a family in either the Antrim area of Ireland or potentially Edinburgh in Scotland.

James O'Neill was born in 1868 in Derrymore, Antrim, Ireland and Elizabeth Lavery was born in 1875 in Aghagallon, Antrim, Ireland. They had 9 children between 1896 and 1918 in Aghagallon that I'm aware of through a mixture of records and family information: Joseph, Henry, Annie, Mary, John, Kevin, James, Gavin and Patrick.

I've been able to find marriages for John and Mary in Edinburgh, Scotland. John married Helen Carrigan in Edinburgh in 1930, and they then moved back to Aghagallon. I have been able to follow this line of the family to the present day in Aghagallon and England.

Mary married James McGrail in 1926, also in Edinburgh - I haven't been able to find any further records for her, her parents or her siblings.

Cleary John and Mary moved to Scotland, and I'm wondering if perhaps the whole family did too?

Thank you in advance for any help or advice.  :)

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 November 20 19:15 GMT (UK) »
There is this death you could check www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk:

Elizabeth LAVERY or O'Neil
aged 36
1910
REf 646/2 184
Govan

You can't tell until you look at the image which way round the surnames are (maiden v. married surnames).

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 November 20 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Can't be a connected entry can it, not if Elizabeth was still having children up to 1918  ::) Have you found the family in Aghagallon on the 1911 census (tried to find them and failed).

You have this but just adding here for background the family's 1901 census entry www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Aghagallon/Derryhirk/1002434/

Added: Just found their entry for 1911 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Aghagallon/Derryhirk/202896/

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 November 20 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Last born Patrick that you list looks to have died as a baby sadly...

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05175
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Was there another child given this name after his death?

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately the vital records on Irish Genealogy for Northern Ireland counties only go up to 1921 (with births less than 100 years old not listed).
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Monica, I didn't know about Patrick, that's so sad. I have been looking through records again trying to find the family but not getting anywhere.

Aghadowey, I've been looking on the GRONI website too, just to see if any names or places match up with the Irish Genealogy website not containing records I may need.

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Re: Lost Family in Scotland or Ireland...
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 November 20 10:36 GMT (UK) »
GRONI's online database will only include N.I. births more than 100 years old, marriages more than 75 years old and deaths more than 50 years old.
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