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Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« on: Sunday 08 November 20 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi!

I am trying to track down any living relatives descended from the Bates family. They were
Charles b. 1892
Alice b. 1893
Albert b. 1895 (married Ada)
Emma b. 1898
Arthur b. 1904
Elsie b. 1906
Thomas b. 1908.
They are all listed as being born and living in Forty Green, Bucks in the 1911 census. I am descended from the oldest son Joseph (William).
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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 November 20 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the Surname Interests Board - link at bottom of page under Tools

Have you checked if anybody has a tree on Ancestry?

They may all have lived in Bucks in 1911 but no guarantees they continued to do so.

Have you looked for marriages for them?

Have you looked for the 3 boys on the 1939 register?

Their ages on the 1911 are not necessarily correct - eg - Arthur was actually Arthur James born Dec qtr 1903 so you need to check freebmd for their correct birthyears & possible other christian names

Arthur James Bates b 26.9.1903 died 1984 in Bucks
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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 November 20 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi!
Thank you for your reply!
No, I didn’t know about the Surname interest board so I will certainly have a look at that.
I have looked for marriages and I have found entries for all of them marrying in Amersham District and the dates they married all tie up with their age but I am not certain if it is them or not, like you say they may have left the area.
The only one I am sure of is Albert as I have a newspaper cutting of his wedding anniversary. He lived in Coleshill which I believe is in Amersham.
The only person I know who would have known them is my mother and unfortunately she is unable to help at the moment. It’s such a shame as I have lots of photos and letters from them and I’d love to share them.
I have noticed already they liked to use any names but their own. One wrote a letter to her brother and signed it “your sister Doll” and Joseph my great grandfather often went by the name William in quite a few records!
I have found Joseph on the 1939 register but to be honest I hadn’t even thought about looking for the other boys, I will do that now! Thank you very much for your help it’s been very helpful!
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London

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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Charles was born Dec qtr 1891 and there is a death for him on 21.12.1962 in Amersham. He left a will and probate was granted to Thomas Bates occ builder

Charles address was Forty Green

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Entry is showing in 1963 - not 1962

EDIT

He is on the 1939 register with wife & child.  His marriage is on freebmd in 1926 - he married Ada Allen
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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:35 GMT (UK) »
That’s great thank you very much for that. Would it be wrong to assume if probate went to his brother that he wasn’t married when he died?
Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London

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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - see my edit above.  He did marry
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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Ah yes that’s great thank you! Daughter is Dorothy did I get that right?
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Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London

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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Albert was Albert Edward b Sept qtr 1895.  Married Ada P Carter March qtr 1923

Albert Edward Bates b 7.8.1895 died 1980 Bucks

Re Dorothy - daughter of Charles - Entry is visible on register so she must have died.  Born 1927 per freebmd
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Re: Bates family, Forty Green, Bucks
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 November 20 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Dorothy Maud Bates b 3.7.1927 died 16.7.2019 Bucks.  She left a will
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