Help finding what happened to Arthur Lewis and family of Newbury

[janjim]

Thank you everyone for your assistance.   I would like to find more information on Harriett Lewis (nee Pyke) to see who her parents were.   As I've previously stated, she was aged 36 married in 1851 census with Edwin, Mary (maybe Letitia Mary) and Arthur aged 1 year and lodger Arthur Williams aged 26 years.   We now know that Arthur Lewis aged 1 year was actually registered as Arthur Williams, so it appears that the lodger was the Father.

We believe that Harriett Pyke had a sister Eliza Pyke, still trying to find the rest of her family.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give me.  Regards Jan

[Ladyhawk]

Harriett appears to have a sister named Eliza Pyke who married a Lipscombe.

Hi
Yes indeed, Eliza married to John Lipscombe in 1851. Youngest child was Esther, 1, born Newbury.

So we can confirm Eliza's maiden name

LIPSCOMB, ESTHER       Mother's Maiden Surname: PYKE
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 238

So Richard was off the scene, and Arthur Williams was around.

But where are they in 1861?

Mmm.... where is Harriett Lewis in 1861 

I would like to find more information on Harriett Lewis (nee Pyke) to see who her parents were.   

As I've previously stated, she was aged 36 married in 1851 census with Edwin, Mary (maybe Letitia Mary) and Arthur aged 1 year and lodger Arthur Williams aged 26 years.   

We now know that Arthur Lewis aged 1 year was actually registered as Arthur Williams, so it appears that the lodger was the Father.

We believe that Harriett Pyke had a sister Eliza Pyke, still trying to find the rest of her family.

As mentioned previously on the same 1851 census living next door to each other

Harriet Lewis (nee Pyke) bn Speen Berkshire (not found baptism on line)
John Lipscombe bn Marlbro Wiltshire occ chair maker master
(there is a bpt. on Anc*y for JL - 18th Dec 1819 Marlborough parents William & Mary)
wife Eliza Lipscombe (nee Pyke) bn Speen Berks (not found a baptism on line)

I think this is John on 1841 same occupation as 1851c but give pob as Berkshire   
Piece:   17 Folio:   4 Page    2 - Speen Berkshire   
John Lipschultz   26 Chair M
A possibility perhaps for Harriet on the next page PYKE family, 
Harriet age 16 with John 49 cordwainer & Eliza 45, plus 5 younger children
Sarah 9, Ann 7, John 5, James 3 & Edward 6mths

PYKE, JAMES       mmn FIDLER 
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in OF NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 191

PYKE, EDWARD    mmn   FIDLER 
GRO Reference: 1841  M Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 06  Page 216

Eliza Lipscombe from 1851 census appears to be on this 1841  census with children John & William  and a  George Lipscombe age 19 is he a relation to her husband John?

Piece:   17 Folio:   5 Page Number:   5 - Speen Berkshire   
Elizah Lepinski   23 Chair M
John Lepinski   5
William Lepinski   3
George Lepinski   19 Chair M

Marriage, Lewis-Pyke
Dec 1844 Newbury 6 432a
Lewis, Richard
Pyke, Harriet

I think you may have to obtain Harriet’s marriage certificate to confirm her father’s name & occupation

[Ladyhawk]

This probably rules out Harriet PYKE from the 1841 census as she is single  on 1851, 1861 & 1881 censuses 

1851 Piece: 1685 Folio:   221

John Pyke   59 cord wainer
Eliza Pyke   54
Harriett Pyke   27 Speen Berkshire
John Pyke   15
James Pyke   12
Edward Pyke   10

1861 Piece:   720 Folio:   10 Page Number:   17

Eliza Pike   63 widow, nurse
Harriet Pike   dau 37 Woodspeen Berkshire
Edward Pike   son 20
Sarah A Pike   9 granddad

1881c Newbury Union Workhouse" Newtown Road
Harriet PYKE age 57, Pauper, Laundress
born:   Speen, Berkshire
Civil Parish:   Newbury Berkshire

[Ladyhawk]

Another Harriet PYKE to look at

1841 c Piece:   29 Folio:   4 Page Number:   2
Civil Parish:   Woolhampton Hundred:   Theale County/Island:   Berkshire

Thomas Pyke   30 50, Farmer
Mary Pyke   50
Thomas Pyke   20
Frances Pyke   18
Harriet Pyke   15
John Pyke   13
Sarah Pyke   11
James Bright   20

EDIT to add

source England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 -no images you can view on familysearch

There are these RC baptism as a possibility for a Thomas, Frances & John PYKE
parents named Thomae & Mariae, others with same parents names but nothing for
Harriett or Sarah 

Thomam PYKE Birth    15 Oct 1821
Baptism 9 Dec 1821 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae  Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS

Franciscam PYKE
Baptism Date:   26 Oct 1823 Ufton Court-Rc,Ufton Nervet,Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS
you can view here baptism
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-63N1-M?i=19

Joannem PYKE Birth    5 Feb 1828
Baptism 23 Mar 1828 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-63N1-M?i=19

Annam PIKE Birth    16 Aug 1812
Baptism 13 Sep 1812 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Pike Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS

Carolinam Pike Birth    18 Mar 1814
Baptism 17 Apr 1814 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS
Caroline appears to be married to a Thomas HAWKINS on 1841/1851 census Newbury Berkshire,
born Speen Berkshire

Mariam PIKE Birth    24 Mar 1816
Baptism Date:   28 Apr 1816 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS

Could this be Eliza ?

Elizabeth PYKE
Baptism 30 Nov 1817 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Pyke Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS
view here https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-63N1-T?i=18

Mariam Pyke Birth    3 Mar 1820
Baptism 16 Apr 1820 Ufton Court-Rc, Ufton Nervet, Berkshire
Father:   Thomae Pyke Mother:   Mariae SIMMONS

Here’s some info. about Ufton
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BRK/Ufton/UftonCourtCatholicchapel
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BRK/Ufton

[Ladyhawk]

In the index there is a Harriet PYKE
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-63N1-J?i=10

Catholic Register Ufton Court, Berkshire and Woolhampton

Index of names
PIKE or PYKE
Anastasia
Anne
Caroline
Elizabeth
Frances
HARRIET
James
John
Lucy
Mary
Thomas

Harriet can be found on page 20 but there are no parents named

1825 Nov 6 Ego hodie baptizavi Harriet PYKE,
filial (blank) natal prima die Oct.
Sponsors Lydia Buss, et pro Ioanne Pyke avo Gulielmus Wickwar
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-63N1-M?i=19

[janjim]

Wow thank you Ladyhawk, will go through this shortly, early morning here in Australia.
Jan

[janjim]

John, well we have the birth certificate now, he was registered as Arthur Williams b. 15.12.1849 Dredge Yard, Northbrook Street, Newbury.  Father Arthur Williams, Millwright, Mother Harriett Williams (formerly Pyke) aged 36 years.

Regards Jan

So you are saying that Harriett married Arthur Williams in 1850 ?   Under the name Pyke, rather than Lewis ??

Hi
No I am not saying they married then, but that son Arthur (your Arthur Lewis) might have been registered as Williams in 1850, and Arthur Williams and Harriett might have claimed to be married. Or at least whichever of them registered the birth told the registrar they were married.
I'm afraid the only way to find out would be to buy the pdf from the GRO.
John

[Ladyhawk]

Janjim just realised your Harriet Pyke was born c1816 Speen Berkshire and info I posted was for Harriet Pyke born 1825 

As previously mentioned you may need her 1844 m/c to confirm her fathers name and his ooccupation

[janjim]

Yes, having just gone through that information above, I realized that, so it appears then that if Harriett was 36 when son Arthur Williams was born in 1849, that would make our Harriett born in 1813.   The 1851 census shows her once again as 36 years of age.   One wonders also about this son Edwin Lewis aged 8 years also in this census, as we can only find an Edwin born in 1840.  Such a complicated family.   It seems that Arthur Williams took on the name of Arthur Lewis after his birth, could not find him in 1861 census, but found him in 1871, with his cousins the Lipscombes. Maybe Harriett decided that she would keep the Father's name from her Lipscombe family members.

I have found a death of a Harriett Lewis at Newbury in 1889 aged 76 years, maybe this is our lady, but where was she between 1851 and 1881.   Maybe Workhouse at some stage ??

Yes I agree we need Harriett's marriage certificate to Richard Lewis.

Jan

Janjim just realised your Harriet Pyke was born c1816 Speen Berkshire and info I posted was for Harriet Pyke born 1825 

As previously mentioned you may need her 1844 m/c to confirm her fathers name and his ooccupation