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Offline paul lamont steel

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Lamont, Ireland 1820
« on: Monday 09 November 20 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi there am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction .... doing our family tree and Iím stuck with a Hugh Lamont born in Ireland about 1820ish ..... he married a Mary Mitchell and had 3 kids , Catherine Ann Lamont who went onto  marry a James or John Dunbar , a Jane Lamont and also a Francis Lamont who was born about 1845 ....... for some reason I canít find anything out about them before 1850/60 ish when they all turn up in a census in Glasgow ..... itís Hugh Lamont or Mary Mitchell Iím after to try n take things further ...... many thanks n all that Paul
( something tells me they were from the north , Ballintoy , ballymena etc area as Catherine married there and think she was born co Derry )

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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 November 20 00:32 GMT (UK) »
( something tells me they were from the north , Ballintoy , ballymena etc area as Catherine married there and think she was born co Derry )
your guess of the area looks right, at least. this was as of Griffith's Valuation, taken in Antrim in 1861-62:

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=lamont

edited: Does tracing Catherine's husband help any?

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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 November 20 00:40 GMT (UK) »
what about the witnesses at Catherine's wedding? are they any help? or Lamonts in the parish?
 Just thinking out loud.


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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 November 20 00:48 GMT (UK) »
what about the witnesses at Catherine's wedding? are they any help?
Link to the civil record of Catherine's marriage to James Dunbar, 21 Mar 1859
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09562/5466871.pdf

The witnesses were James and John McMullan, and James witnessed a marriage in the same church the next day. So no help there. James might have been the guy next door, or the sexton.

next angle: who was Catherine living with in Lisbelnagroagh when she married?

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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 20 01:00 GMT (UK) »
next angle: who was Catherine living with in Lisbelnagroagh when she married?

Jane Dunbar maybe?
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=002025&path=./pix/002/&showpage=1&mysession=2731511565522&width=&height=&debug=

And maybe I shouldn't have written off the McMullens. There are a John and James McMullen in the townland as well. But it is probably a common name. How close is the townland to the church???

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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 November 20 08:53 GMT (UK) »
The link in reply #3 didn't work for me.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09562/5466871.pdf
Important clue in the 1859 marriage is father Hugh Lamont is a cooper.

Lemon is a common spelling variatin in East Derry/North Antrim. What religion were the family? Some Lamonts were Presbyterian but others, around Ballymoney area especially, were Reformed Presbyterian.

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/cary/ballintoy/lisbellanagroagh-beg/
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/cary/ballintoy/lisbellanagroagh-more/
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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 November 20 09:39 GMT (UK) »
The link in reply #3 didn't work for me.

Thanks, I fixed it, I think. It wasn't all one line so the last part of the address wasn't clickable.

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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 November 20 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Important clue in the 1859 marriage is father Hugh Lamont is a cooper.

the Hugh Lamont in Glasgow, 1861, is a brick maker.

Civil Parish:    Glasgow Calton
County:    Lanarkshire
Address:    10 Fordnenke St

Hugh, 38, Mary 38, Francis 16, Jane 13, all born in Ireland, and a Christina Lyon, 18, born in Glasgow. I can't see the images at ancestry.

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Question for the OP: Have you found them in Glasgow earlier than this?

Devil's advocate: What makes you say the Catherine who married James Dunbar is your Catherine? Did they later move to Glasgow near Hugh and Mary? Or are there later records that link her to them? -- I haven't looked yet.

On the other hand, the Catherine Lamont who married James D. was 16, had no occupation, and evidently was not living with her parents, since there were no Lamonts in that townland. Maybe she stayed behind, her parents knowing she would marry soon. If she was someone else's daughter, why wouldn't she be with her family?

Thinking out loud again.



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Re: Lamont, Ireland 1820
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 November 20 10:10 GMT (UK) »
On the other hand, the Catherine Lamont who married James D. was 16, had no occupation, and evidently was not living with her parents, since there were no Lamonts in that townland. Maybe she stayed behind, her parents knowing she would marry soon. If she was someone else's daughter, why wouldn't she be with her family?

Following on from oldohiohome's thoughts-
James Dunbar died in Lisbelnacroagh in 1882- informant widow Catherine-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06395/4836363.pdf
Can't see a likely death or re-marriage.
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