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Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« on: Friday 13 November 20 07:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
My G.G Grandmother was named Mary Jane Drake in her 1864 marriage banns.
Married in aberystwyth to Albert Dawson.
Father is listed possibly as Michael Drake, although the transcriber seems to think he is named Macfiael.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jaJsxPnBP_8QoGYlL_VOgbdAleT78lP4/view?usp=sharing
(Am not sure how to link photos)

She lived and died in Aberystywth following her marriage, known as Jane Dawson
In every census her place of birth is listed as Ireland, and Dublin, Ireland in one.
Listed age seems to put her born around 1848

I cannot find anything at all about either Mary Jane or Michael/Macfiael before the marriage, or anything about the father after the marriage.

In the local paper archives there is a petty sessions article about her being accused by a neighbour of fleeing Ireland following a murder, which then led to my GG Grandmother striking her.
From the local paper archives, she seems a bit feisty, and was always in the court for fighting, drinking, being a nuisance.
I have ordered the marriage certificate, but not sure where to go from here!
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 November 20 11:00 GMT (UK) »
That is her marriage certificate image that you have posted, the signatures appear to be original so not a copy from the GRO.
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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 November 20 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes sorry,what I meant to write is that I have ordered it and I am waiting for it to arrive.
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London


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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 November 20 11:12 GMT (UK) »
The image that you have posted is a copy of the parish register entry for their marriage.

A copy from a register office may be a duplicate if it has been scanned from the original entry which you already have.  If it is from the GRO it would normally be a copy of the record that was sent from the church which is not generally a copy with original signatures.  Sometimes the register office or GRO will issue a handwritten or typed transcript if the original is poor.
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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 November 20 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Oh I see, so I have likely wasted my money then!
Ah well, live and learn!!
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 November 20 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Something we have probably all done,  At least you have a copy with signatures as well  :). I do think it is more likely to say Michael but it is always best to look at all options

I did wonder if she was related to Frederick Drake who married in the same church in 1866 but his place of birth is Staffordshire and his father John Drake so we can probably eliminate him.  No other Drakes appearing in the area.
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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 November 20 15:58 GMT (UK) »
There is baptism of a Margaret Mary Jane Drake, 1850, Dublin (COI), father, Francis, a plumber, mother, Margaret. Of course, this would make her 14 when she married. Do you have her father's occupation?

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 November 20 16:03 GMT (UK) »
According to the marriage banns, father Michael/Macfiael was a labourer.

Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 November 20 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Do birth registrations for their children confirm her maiden name as Drake or something else?
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