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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #18 on: Friday 13 November 20 17:27 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 census states that she was born in Mold, Montgomeryshire. They are in Carmarthen.

Still on my railway theme, Chester-Mold railway opened 1849. Linked to Holyhead-Chester line. Holyhead-Kingstown (now Dun Laoghaire) was the mailboat route to & from Ireland. A mineral line was laid to Mold. Michael may have been a railway labourer or a miner, both mobile jobs. I can't see Mary Jane or Michael in Wales on 1851 census. They may have moved elsewhere in Britain or gone to Ireland. Railway construction boom in Ireland began later than in Britain.
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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #19 on: Friday 13 November 20 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Albert Edward (1883) Dawson's  Dad was also Albert Edward Dawson (1844) so that may be some of the confusion?
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #20 on: Friday 13 November 20 17:28 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 census states that she was born in Mold, Montgomeryshire. They are in Carmarthen.

Still on my railway theme, Chester-Mold railway opened 1849. Linked to Holyhead-Chester line. Holyhead-Kingstown (now Dun Laoghaire) was the mailboat route to & from Ireland. A mineral line was laid to Mold. Michael may have been a railway labourer or a miner, both mobile jobs. I can't see Mary Jane or Michael in Wales on 1851 census. They may have moved elsewhere in Britain or gone to Ireland. Railway construction boom in Ireland began later than in Britain.

Oh Gosh, this is quite a lot of amazing avenues to explore...
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London


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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 November 20 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Some snippets of Aberystwyth history.
https://www.aberystwythguide.org.uk/history/to1880.shtml
1862 work began on railway Machynlleth-Aberystwyth
1864 railway to Shrewsbury opened. This was start of decline of local trade based on shipping.
You can look up other decades in the guide.
Railway development in places where Mary Jane Drake was might be coincidence.
I wonder who Mrs Hines was, the woman she had a dispute with and whether her accusation was genuine. 
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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 14 November 20 06:35 GMT (UK) »
The father's name is clearly Michael. Macfiael is just nonsense.
The Jane may not be a baptismal name.
What were the children's names?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens; CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter; COSGRAVE Castlebridge; CULLEN Lady's Island (LI); CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic; DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack; EDWARDS Wex; FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown; HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex; McGILL Litter; MORRIS Forth Commons; PIERCE LI; POTTS Bennettstown; REDMOND Ballygarrett; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit; SHERIDAN Monadurtlow; SINNOTT Wex; SMYTH Gerry/Oulart; WALSH Kilrane/Wex

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 14 November 20 07:57 GMT (UK) »
The father's name is clearly Michael. Macfiael is just nonsense.
The Jane may not be a baptismal name.
What were the children's names?

Yes agree, the surname is also transcribed as DRAKER, so someone had a bad day....

Children are
Mary Anne Dawson 1868
Charles Kenrick Dawson - 1872
Thomas Edward Dawson - 1877
Albert Edward Dawson - 1883
John Austin Dawson - 1888
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 14 November 20 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Their were 2 more children missing from your list.

Martha Jane, born about 1866 & Ema, 1870-71. Neither Martha Jane or Mary Ann can be found on the GRO.

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 14 November 20 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Their were 2 more children missing from your list.

Martha Jane, born about 1866 & Ema, 1870-71. Neither Martha Jane or Mary Ann can be found on the GRO.

Oh interesting.
What are the reasons they wouldn't have been listed in the GRO?
Slack - Aberystwyth/Wrexham
Brodigan - Aberystwyth/Germany
Dawson - Aberystwyth/North Wales
James - Aberystwyth
Day - Aberystwyth/London

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Re: Mary Jane Drake 1848 doesn't exist before move to Wales
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 14 November 20 09:11 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on familysearch which names Mary Jane's mother.....Joanna Donovan

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MTLR-XLD

Martha Jane's baptism, 1865

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1R4-ZFH