I'm hoping someone can help me out here!

[Mads94]

Hi! Thank you for taking the time to read this post! I am fairly new to digging into my family's history! I'm currently working on my mother's side.

A little bit of background:

Just over a year ago my grandfather had passed away. A few months ago my grandmother stumbled upon a very old looking family tree that is nearly the size of a dining room table! It was the "Playfair Family Tree".

I traced back from my great-grandmother (where the branch had ended, it seemed to end around that era) all the way back to my 9th great-grandfather Robert Playfair (1610-1658) and my 9th great-grandmother Christian Ritchie (birth and death are currently unknown).

Now, jumping down a few generations I had noticed that James Playfair (1712-1772) and (possibly) Margaret "Peggie" Young (1713-1805) had a child (amongst their 9 other children) which was written on the family tree as "Loiner Son".

I'm hoping someone can possibly shed light on what that means or even who it is? It has been bugging me ever since!

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to read this! Have a good day!

[ev]

Hi , welcome to RC  ,

Had a quick look at Scotlandspeople(Banns & Marriages) and spotted the following -
James Playfair / Pegie Young , 9th OCT. 1746 , Inverarity Angus.
Not sure about any children 


ev

[greenrig]

This may be a complete red herring - but "Loiner" is a name for a native of the town of Leeds.

[scotmum]

Could it be as in 'fruit of his loins', eg the son of the father but not the mother (ie born to another woman)?

[scotmum]

Found these old posts etc on other sites that may be of interest:

https://www.ancestry.ca/boards/surnames.playfair/4 suggesting 11 children born.

https://www.geni.com/people/Margaret-Playfair/6000000044740075922

https://www.myheritage.com/names/james_playfair part way down page

[Forfarian]

There's a very worrying absence of any primary records of this family in the indexes to the original records on Scotland's People. In particular the registers of baptisms of the parishes of Liff and Benzie seem to be mostly missing. See below.

And I would definitely not trust any tree on Ancestry, MyHeritage or any other commercial web site, and I'd be wary of unsourced information on Geni and similar free sites.

There is, however, quite a lot of information about Rev James Playfair, Minister of Liff and Benvie, via http://www.ecclegen.com/general-index-p/ which refers to a publication titled Four Perthshire Families and also to the Dictionary of National Biography (DNB)

Four Perthshire Families has been digitised by the National Library of Scotland and can be consulted at https://digital.nls.uk/publications-by-scottish-clubs/archive/79231665

[Ruskie]

If the tree is hand written it is possible that you could be misreading the word?

Can you give more details about the child who was "Loiner Son" eg his name, date and place of birth. Details of the other children might also help put the "Loiner Son" into context.

[Rosinish]

Quite a few on SP with variants e.g. Plafair, Plafeir, Plaifair

Annie

[ev]

From the link provided by Forfarian -
https://archive.org/stream/fastiecclesiaesc05scot#page/348/mode/1up

James Playfair , 1712-1772.

Married -
1. Isobel Ure(died S.P. ,  sine prole, without offspring)
2. Margaret Young , married 1746 , died 1805 age 85.

Issue-
John 1748-1819
Robert b. 1751
Andrew 1752-1753
Jean b.1754
James b.1755-1794
Charles(twin) 1759-1760
William(twin)1759-1823
Andrew b.1761
Margaret b.1763
Barbara b.1768


ev