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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Marriage entry for Philip & George

Mar 1863 Hinckley Leicestershire Volume:   7a Page:   85
George Ebenezer Brame
Philip Edward Brame
Charlotte Mary Law
Fanny Winifred Law

Can't find this marriage online on Anc*y to view

1881 census Piece:   3131 Folio:   46 Page Number:   34
Phillip E. Brame   42 jeweller
Charlotte M. 43 Authoress
F.M.A. 4
Helen M. Law    26
plus 3 visitors, 2 servants

you should be able to find the census entries on familysearch

Edit to add George & his family

1881 Piece:   1376 Folio:   37 Page Number:   68
George Brame   45 Teeside Cumberland , Commission Seller Agent
Fanny   42
Geo.    17
Helen    13
Agnes    11
Herbert    9
Philip    7
Rose    6
Ethel    4
May   2
Vernon    

You can check births on GRO indexes which will confirm mother's maiden name
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 16:48 GMT (UK) »
This could be Edwin Brame

Edwin Brame Age:   21
Enlistment Date:   29 Aug 1862
Enlistment Place:   Bendersville, USA
Muster Date:   29 Aug 1862
Muster Place:   Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, USA
Rank:   Private
Unit Type:   Infantry
Regiment:   138th Pennsylvania
Company:   G
image says he was killed in action 1st June 1864 at Cold Harbor V?
source Pennyslvania, U.S., Civil War Muster Rolls, 1860-1869
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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Oh my goodness thank you!!  I found another site that indicated that he had maybe been in the civil war, but it wasn't conclusive.  This is so exciting, how can I find out more about it?  What sites are good to go to?

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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 17:25 GMT (UK) »
I found another site that indicated that he had maybe been in the civil war, but it wasn't conclusive.  This is so exciting, how can I find out more about it?  What sites are good to go to?

Not sure that's all I could find on Anc*y

Here's the Battle Map at Cold Harbor
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/maps/cold-harbor-june-1-1864
https://www.britannica.com/event/battle-of-Cold-Harbor

and from wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cold_Harbor
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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 17:50 GMT (UK) »
George & Fanny Brame's son was in the Army his records can be found on Anc*y

Laurence Vernon Brame
48 Gladmuir Road Highgate
Rank:   Private
Enlistment Age:   21
Discharge Age:   22
Event Type:   Attestation
Birth Date:   abt 1880
Birth Place:   South Hornsey, London, Middlesex
Enlistment Date:   11 Feb 1901
Enlistment Place:   London
Attestation Date:   14 Feb 1901
Attestation Place:   48 Duke St
Military Place:   South Africa
Unit:   58th Sqdn 15th Battn
Regiment:   Imperial Yeomanry
Service Number:   34069
Discharge Date:   30 Aug 1902
Discharge Place:   Shorncliffe
Mother:   Frances Brame

Lawrence Vernon Brame Age:   34
Marriage Walton-Le-Soken, All Saints, Essex 22 Jun 1914
Father:   George Ebenezer Brame
Spouse:   Beatrice Chatterton
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Re: John Brame burial site
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 18 November 20 20:29 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Edwin may have been buried at Mass Graves Cold Harbour
Two burial trenches (ditches) containing the remains of 568 and 321 unknown Union soldiers are located at Cold Harbor National Cemetery............

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14591855/mass_graves-cold_harbor

Edit to add

From the ebook link you added
page 18  A Chronology of Charlotte Brame’s life & career

Gives the date and place of her 1863 marriage to Philip Edward Brame and that of her sister Fanny to his brother George Ebenezer Brame

1866 Philip Brame declared bankrupt following a substantial theft from one of his employees

here’s a link to the old Bailey record naming the person and what he stole
24/10/1864 https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18641024-name-372&div=t18641024-986#highlight

1884 Charlotte’s burial in her parents grave at Hinckley Cemetery,
Philip drowned on 14 May 1886 he is buried in an unmarked grave at Hinckley Cemetery

Here's the 1884 Burial Charlotte Mary Brame
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200344632/charlotte-mary-brame

If there's is anything else that you require please don't hesitate to post again - lots of people on here with different resources that are always willing to help

Good luck with your research  :)

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