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Offline stevengenresearch

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Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« on: Friday 20 November 20 10:31 GMT (UK) »
any help welcome with the location of Helen Guthrie, The Father and Daughter are from Kinnoull Perthshire. looks like Woodend to me.
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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 November 20 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Woodend to me too.
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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 November 20 19:56 GMT (UK) »
'Woodend' from me too.
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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 November 20 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Going by the location of Kinnoull, this may be it, possibly a farm back in the day although I can't find anything for the period in Tax Rolls etc...

Scroll down to Pg 5 & beyond

https://tinyurl.com/yxjyjyrl

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 November 20 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Woodend appears to have been a large house on the east side of the R. Tay, located between the river and the Dundee Road and opposite the N. end of Friarton Island.

It is shown on the Thomson 1832 map of Perthshire (https://maps.nls.uk/atlas/thomson/)

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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 November 20 02:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank You. :-)
O'Brien, Curley, Albiston, Clarke, Craddock, Hydon, Roberts,
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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 November 20 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Woodend appears to have been a large house on the east side of the R. Tay, located between the river and the Dundee Road and opposite the N. end of Friarton Island.

It is shown on the Thomson 1832 map of Perthshire (https://maps.nls.uk/atlas/thomson/)

Regards,  Istrice.

Istrice, is that the Old Toll House as on here...

https://canmore.org.uk/site/127378/perth-dundee-road-barnhill-tollhouse

You need to zoom out 3/4 times

https://canmore.org.uk/site/search/result?NUMLINK=127378&view=map

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 November 20 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Annie,

Woodend is shown as a substantial property to the north of the location of the toll house.

The John Thomson Atlas of Scotland (1832), which I referenced, shows Perth and Clackmannan on four sheets.  If you refer to the SE Sheet and locate Perth and "Brend" (Bridgend) on the east side of the Tay, "Woodend" is south of the latter location.

I suspect that the house may have been demolished during the construction of the Perth/Dundee railway in the mid 1800's.

The nearest I could get to its location from old maps was a house by the name of Burnhills (possible name change from Woodend ?) which itself became part of the railway's "Burnhill Sidings" shown on later OS Maps.

Railway land plans and/or associated legal paperwork may hold a clue to the history of Woodend, failing which the former Register of Sasines may possibly provide further information.

Istrice

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Re: Help with location of Helen Guthrie.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 November 20 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Istrice...

I did find the map on your link but was struggling to compare the old & new but I can now see what's where.

Annie


South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"