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Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« on: Saturday 21 November 20 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I hold a 1768 marriage bond, (dated 1/7/1768), for a Samuel Aston and a Marry Rosall. It was found On-Line at Lancashire Archives and states that Mary Rosall was a widow aged 34. They were married in the parish of Poulton-Le-Fylde, (on 2/7/1768).

I assume the name Rosall would have been her 1st husbands surname. I have tried finding the 1st marriage and all i can come up with, that looks a possible, is a Richard Rosall marrying a Mary Hudson in Garstang in 1753, (12 miles away), but I cannot find a burial record for him.

Can some kind person help me out?

Many thanks

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 November 20 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Eric -- Richard 'Rossall' and Mary Hudson may have married at Garstang but according to their marriage record on Lancs OPC Richard was from Bispham and Mary from Thistleton, Kirkham.

Hence there is a Fylde connection again. Having said that I can't find a burial at the moment for an adult Richard.

From Lancs OPC;

Marriage: 17 Jun 1753 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England
Richard Rossell - Bispham
Mary Hudson - Thistleton in the Parish of Kirkham
    Married by Licence
    Register: Marriages 1746 - 1754, Page 55
    Source: LDS Film 1278942
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 November 20 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Marriage: 17 Jun 1753 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England
Richard Rossell - Bispham
Mary Hudson - Thistleton in the Parish of Kirkham
    Married by Licence
    Register: Marriages 1746 - 1754, Page 55
    Source: LDS Film 1278942

Can't see a marriage licence for this couple in Lancs. Archives catalogue.
Possible child. Sarah, St. Michael, Kirkham baptism register, 23rd Feb. 1755, abode Thistleton.

There are several Richard Rossall wills in LANCAT.
1746-7 Richard Rossall of Roscarr in Poulton, yeoman, had a son and grandson, Richard Rossall.
Richard Rossall of Poulton, gent., will dated 1763, probate 1771. 
1730 Richard Rossall of Bispham Bank, Bispham cum Warbrick, yeoman.
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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 November 20 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys.

I have found a baptism record for a Mary Hudson in Kirkham dated 4th February 1733 in the record set 'Lancashire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812'

I had the date when the bond was signed wrong, it was the 7th January 1768, (see link)

https://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=ARR%2f11%2f18528&pos=1

which would make Ann Hudson 34. So it appears she is the one I am looking for. I would prefer finding a burial record for her husband though, to make it as near 100% certain as it can be.

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 November 20 12:04 GMT (UK) »
sorry. ....would make MARY Hudson 34

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 November 20 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Just teaches me to look at the actual image of the parish records. The following link take you to whats on Anc, is that REALLY the surname "Hudson"???

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2478/images/4421040_00133?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=XZH1982&_phstart=successSource&pId=55740972

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 November 20 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Hudson to me and www.lan-opc.org.uk also have it as Hudson. They are living in Thistleton.

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 November 20 13:30 GMT (UK) »
I have to say it didn't look like Hudson to me actually -- it looked more like how the scribe wrote his very fancy capital 'L' s.

However it does look as though it is correct as Hudson because there is the following marriage preceding the baptism on Lancs OPC;

Marriage: 29 Dec 1730 St Michael, Kirkham, Lancashire, England
William Hudson - Thisleton
Mary Wilkinson - Eccleston
    Register: Marriages 1712 - 1731, Entry 449
    Source: LDS Film 1502433
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Mary Rosall Born c 1734
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 November 20 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Just teaches me to look at the actual image of the parish records. The following link take you to whats on Anc, is that REALLY the surname "Hudson"???

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2478/images/4421040_00133?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=XZH1982&_phstart=successSource&pId=55740972

I don't have a sub so I can't look at it. However, browsing Kirkham transcriptions on LANOPC last night, I wondered if Hodson and Hudson were the same.
As a marriage licence added an extra cost to a wedding, either they had money to spare or they didn't want banns called for some reason. Any indications that they weren't C. of E.?  Catholic registers in all places where they might have married or had babies baptised began too late. There were unofficial burial grounds belonging to religious minorities.
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