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Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 21 November 20 18:17 GMT (UK) »
My gg grandfather Alexander McIntyre was born in Morvern, probably in 1815 to Donald McIntyre and Isobel McInnes, who married in Glasgow in 1812. He married Sarah/Sally/Marion McPherson in 1842 in Morvern - she was born in 1815 in Glasgow to Malcolm McPherson and Flory Black. Alexander, Sarah and their children were in Morvern (1841, 1851 census) until they were evicted from Aulisten on the Drimnin Estate by Lady Drummond. The family went to Muckairn (1861) then Oban (1871 and 1881).
There are two things Iíd like to request help with please, one specific and one more general.
First, Iíve not been able to find Alexanderís death certificate. He is on the 1881 census in Oban, living with two of his children, Colin and Flora, wife Sarah having died in 1874. There is an Alexander McIntyre who died in Oban in 1881. However, his date of death was before the 1881 census was taken and, from the parent details given, I can track him and see that he is a different man who, like my gg grandfather, appears on the various censuses. I wondered if my Alexander was with another potentially surviving child, Duncan b 1847 or Mary Margaret, b 1854, or even a sibling, Donald b 1817 or Peggy b 1825. Iíve not had success in tracking these children/siblings.
Second, Iím intrigued by the Glasgow-Morvern connection. Iíd thought that movement would be in the other direction, from the country to the city, but obviously both Alexander and Sarahís parents spent time in Glasgow before arriving in (or returning to?) Morvern. Iíd be really grateful if anyone could shed light on this, including pointing me to wider reading Ė Iíve learnt a lot from Philip Gaskellís Morvern Transformed.
Thank you.

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 November 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
There is a brith/ baptism record on Scotland's People, for Alexander MacIntyre 19/06/1815 Morvern, with parents Donald MacIntyre and Isobel MacInnis.

Using that year of birth there are a few deaths to consider, but none in Oban.

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 November 20 21:23 GMT (UK) »
None are him, unfortunately. Heís very elusive!


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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 November 20 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked outside of Scotland?
This is possibly the son Duncan in 1901, Cheshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS66-B37

and Duncan's marriage in 1899
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQNQ-R2P

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 November 20 22:26 GMT (UK) »
That looks promising. Duncanís grandfather Malcolm McPherson was an innkeeper and trades often run in families.
I do suspect Alexander died outside of Scotland.

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 November 20 00:27 GMT (UK) »
Quite often when a death was registered ages were guessed & often out by a few yrs or more.

You haven't said whether you'd looked at other possibles?

I used a birth yr of 1815 +/- 10 & there are 3 not counting the 1881 chap although the Campbeltown one would seem unlikely?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 November 20 01:02 GMT (UK) »
More detail needed for Mary Margaret McIntyre. I cannot find a birth in 1854.
What is the exact date and place?

Here is a possible for Donald McIntyre born 1817
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC3Q-BSD

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 November 20 06:27 GMT (UK) »
Birth registration in Scotland began in 1855 i.e. a baptism prior to then is the only likely means which may not record the actual birth date if it has survived.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 November 20 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Had a look on Scotland's People. Could not find him in Oban on 1871 or 1881 census