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peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« on: Monday 23 November 20 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Please can you help, thanks, yes being me , helping people out, is my thing .familysearch gives no parents, been given a marriage 1771, a jane morris has been mentioned,thankyou Margaret.

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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 November 20 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get the date of marriage from?  You say he was Glaswegian but have posted on the Radnorshire board.  Was the marriage in Wales?

Can you explain your 2 dates please - your header says 15.10.1785 but you then give a marriage date in 1771

Marriages for that period never show fathers names.

If he was born in Glasgow - have you checked www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

This is the only Welsh marriage on Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC1V-2M9
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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 November 20 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Sorry since my recent post he married in 1806 to a mary jones. his wifes burial was in 2.5.1840 aged 53.        1787 erected by his second son james bywater. montgomery churchyard,CAERSWS
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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 November 20 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Sorry since my recent post he married in 1806 to a mary jones. his wifes burial was in 2.5.1840 aged 53.        1787 erected by his second son james bywater. montgomery churchyard,CAERSWS
Margaret.
Thankyou for all this imfo.thanks.

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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 November 20 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Baptism in Glasgwm, Radnorshire 15 Oct 1785 for Peter, son of John Bywater by Jane his wife

Marriage in Llanwnnog, Montgomeryshire 3 March 1806 for Peter Bywater otp & Mary Jones otp, with consent of parents. Witnesses John Bywater & Evan Morgan. All sign except Mary. John Bywater witnesses several other marriages on the same page.

Possible burial for parents in Caersws
9 Jan 1826 Jane Bywater 86 Tynewydd
8 April 1826 John Bywater 84 Caersws
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 November 20 15:05 GMT (UK) »
there's a marriage licence from 1771 for John Bywater and Jane Morris, widow, both of Llanbadarn Fynydd, Radnorshire. Not particularly near to Glasgwm. Haven't spotted the marriage online as yet.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 November 20 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou OSPREY very much apprieciated,Margaret.

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Re. Parents of peter bywater
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 November 20 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm looking for the parents of peter bywater ( born 1785 glascwm)
I know their names are john and jane..I originally thought they could be john bywater ( born abt. 1768)and jane wooller ( married around 1791) . However they seem to have gone on to have 2 daughters ( twins) in 1818. Therefore would this rule them out ( ie gap between Peter's birth and the daughters ie.33years)?
The current couple I'm now looking at are john bywater and jane morris. Both died in 1826 at Llanwnogg.( married 1771) .There is a link with this place and peter. Peter seems to be living here at one point ( record of some of his children born here ). My only issue with this couple is that it has been indicated they were born abt 1740, making them 45 when they had Peter- is this likely? Also I cant find birth records for them to confirm date of abt 1740. Can anyone solve who the correct john and jane might be ?????. Also it may be a different john and jane altogether??


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Re: peter bywaters 15.10.1785 glasgwn.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 November 20 18:51 GMT (UK) »
the records for Llanbadarn Fynydd for the period of the marriage of John to Jane Morris are not online.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/RAD/LlanbadarnFynydd

You may need for the archives to re-open so you can get the entry checked.

By the way, welcome to Rootschat!   :D
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb