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Re: Tudor/Rabone -Birmingham
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 November 20 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Ah John, that's why Davis is written in on the 1939 Register, it's a red herring that Henrietta married a Davis, it's a reference to Florence's third husband Joseph Davis
Yapp - Ludlow Shropshire
Rawlings - Shropshire
Tudor - Aston Birmingham
Rabone - Aston Birmingham
Clayton - Aston Birmingham
Phillips - Birmingham, Redditch
Bower -Sheffield,Boston,
Barnett- Birmingham
Elson- Birmingham
Walton -Birmingham, Solihull
Green - Birmingham
Maling - Birmingham
Cain - Birmingham
Cheetham - Sheffield
Sharratt -Burton on Trent
New- Hampshire, Coalville

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Re: Tudor/Rabone -Birmingham
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 November 20 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to possibly throw a stick in the spokes here.

I do not think the 1939 register we are all looking at is your family. The Henrietta dob 1904 who first married Caswell as "Jones" and then John Hathaway.

She was born and used Henrietta as her christian name in 1939, but dies as Florence H Hathaway.

Births Mar 1904 
Jones    Florence Henrietta        Birmingham    6d   141

So, is it possible that Leslie & Henrietta having had 3 children between 1927-31 (2 sadly dying young) decided to emigrate somewhere. The fact that Leslie, Henrietta & Dennis cannot be seemingly found in UK records does suggest this as a possibility.

Leslie & Henrietta were certainly together in 1930 electoral register living at 85 Denville Cresent Birmingham

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 November 20 12:58 GMT (UK) »
It's so good to have a fresh pair of eyes look at things.

I knew Henrietta Gannon was born on 10th Jan 1904, so when I found an Henrietta on the 1939 register with the exact date of birth I was blind sided, but your research makes sense.

I'd obviously thought of emigration, but thought Leslie and Henrietta had split up, and was surprised that he wouldn't have told his mother or any of his four sisters if he was leaving the country,
also I haven't been able to find any record of them emigrating, but it the only scenerio that makes sense.
Thanks so much for your help, but think it's a brick wall
Yapp - Ludlow Shropshire
Rawlings - Shropshire
Tudor - Aston Birmingham
Rabone - Aston Birmingham
Clayton - Aston Birmingham
Phillips - Birmingham, Redditch
Bower -Sheffield,Boston,
Barnett- Birmingham
Elson- Birmingham
Walton -Birmingham, Solihull
Green - Birmingham
Maling - Birmingham
Cain - Birmingham
Cheetham - Sheffield
Sharratt -Burton on Trent
New- Hampshire, Coalville

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Re: Tudor/Rabone -Birmingham
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 November 20 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Where did you find Henrietta's birth date?

The only Henrietta Gannon birth on free bmd is in the June quarter of 1904, and a January birth should be in the 1st quarter.

Have you found her in 1911?


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Re: Tudor/Rabone -Birmingham
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 November 20 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Yes, she was baptised on 11th April 1907 in Birmingham, but born 10th January 1904 according to transcribed records.
Father :    Jacobi Gannon
Mother: Emiliae Annae Eustace Gannon

Marriage in 1888 of Emily Ann Eustace and James Gannon in Aston on free bmd.


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Re: Tudor/Rabone -Birmingham
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 November 20 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Interesting death, need to go out now though

Deaths Mar 1982 

TOWNSEND    HENRIETTA    10JA1907    OXFORD    20   2871    
TUDOR    HENRIETTA    10JA1907    OXFORD    20   2871    

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 November 20 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Hetty Townsend in 1939.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 November 20 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chempat and John,

I found Henrietta's d.o.b 10/1/1904,as you did, from Catholic baptism, and she is on the 1911 census with parents James and Emily and siblings, she is shown as 8, so either she wasn't 8 or her date of birth wasn't 1904 (census date 2nd April)

Those death records of 1982 are really interesting John, clearly Henrietta Tudor/Townsend are the same person,but d.o.b 10th Jan 1907, not 1904.

I have looked for a marriage of Townsend to Tudor/Rabone without sucess

What I did find, and possibly another red herring,is on the 1939 Register there is a Harold Townsend living with Hettie Townsend whose date of birth is 10th Jan 1907 living in Pangbourne, Berkshire, other people's detail have been closed.
I can't find record of a Harold Townsend marrying anyone called Hettie or Henrietta, so this could be
"my" Henrietta, maybe she and Leslie never divorced, hence the double death index ?

I am puzzled by some of the records, I was married in 1966 and my details are on freebmd but not on FindMyPast, nor are they on FindMyPast under my husbands name, is that unusual ?

Would be grateful of your views
Many thanks
Sandra



Yapp - Ludlow Shropshire
Rawlings - Shropshire
Tudor - Aston Birmingham
Rabone - Aston Birmingham
Clayton - Aston Birmingham
Phillips - Birmingham, Redditch
Bower -Sheffield,Boston,
Barnett- Birmingham
Elson- Birmingham
Walton -Birmingham, Solihull
Green - Birmingham
Maling - Birmingham
Cain - Birmingham
Cheetham - Sheffield
Sharratt -Burton on Trent
New- Hampshire, Coalville

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 26 November 20 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I have been trying to work on the Harold and Hetty in 1939.

A rough 'rule of thumb' was that people got the year wrong (at 1939 and at death) but usually stuck to the same day and month.  People might want to make themselves appear younger or older, for a variety of reasons, and informants on death certificate could just have the wrong year.

Cannot see any will for Henrietta for any further family.  There are a lot of closed records in that 1939 set.

Cannot see birth for Harold Townsend, and death not definite.

Do not know why F M P is missing records of your marriage..
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