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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Death of Ann, wife of Edmund Pearse of the King's Arms Inn, Longford
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65952262

Transfer of the licence for the King's Arms from Edmund Pearse
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65952404

'All persons having claims on the undersigned during his absence...'
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65949717

Edmund Pearse departed for London
Add: 'Departures 3 April the bark Union, 327 tons, Webster, for London'
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4158999

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Add: all in 1839

Add: Some other Trove results here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/category/newspapers?keyword=%22edmund%20pearse%22&l-state=Tasmania&sortBy=dateAsc&startPos=0

Thank you so much, I've just seen he departed alongside his soon-to-be wife number 2: Mary Ann Beaumish. So now I know her MMN and that they met in Tasmania. Much appreciated.

Married as Mary Ann Hockaday a couple of days after landing in London, witnesses John and Ann Beamish? All very curious!

There's a Mary Ann Beamish arrived in Van Diemen's Land in 1834
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2p/

Add - oops, Neale1961 found it first!

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:22 GMT (UK) »
1839 death reg for Ann Pearse aged 49y
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-16P3J2K

1835 marriage entry for the couple
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD36-1-2P117J2K

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Thank you. I just saw on there she was a widow when she married Edmund so there should be a first marriage somewhere.

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:25 GMT (UK) »
The British Newspaper Archive shows that the Union, Webster, arrived from Van Diemen's Land around the 25th July 1839 - does this timing fit with his next marriage?

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Yes, it does, perfectly, thank you. They married two days after they got off the ship in London!

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage of parents:
Thomas Pearse and Ann Pressland 11 June 1787 Hitchin, Herts
Children:
Louisa and John 1789
George 1791
Henry 1793
Amelia 1794
William 1796
Sarah 1797
Lydia 1799
Edmund 1801

This is fantastic, thank you; and it all fits with the baptism record I found. Where did you find this please? (am still trying to learn, so will go off and try to find the record myself so I know how to do this in the future)


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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know what this means please? Looks like Edmund Pearse was the landlord of the Kings Arms Inn. This was March 1839. His first wife died Jan 1839 and he transferred the license two weeks later to someone else. Does this clipping mean he was bankrupt? Or that he was leaving the country? (which he was doing)

It is Edmund Pearse authorising James Gurney to act on his behalf, in Pearse's absence, in relation to any debts owed by Pearse or any money owed to him. This was common for people leaving the colony.

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Thank you very much for explaining

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Page links for Mary Ann (or Margaret) BEAMISH aged 20y arrived as immigrant on the Strathfieldsay August 1834. General servant, character doubtful, employed by Mrs Hills Elizabeth st Hobart
https://stors.tas.gov.au/MB2-39-1-2
https://stors.tas.gov.au/GO33-1-17P0900JPG

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Mary Ann Beamish (tasmania arrival)
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=mary&qu=beaumish#

Sadly I cannot get the link to work ("cannot find names"/system error)....what does it say, please?

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Page links for Mary Ann (or Margaret) BEAMISH aged 20y arrived as immigrant on the Strathfieldsay August 1834. General servant, character doubtful, employed by Mrs Hills Elizabeth st Hobart
https://stors.tas.gov.au/MB2-39-1-2
https://stors.tas.gov.au/GO33-1-17P0900JPG

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Character: Doubtful!  ;D

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Re: Edmund PEARCE/PEARSE convicted and sent to Van Diemen's Land 1822 - help please
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 25 November 20 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Death of Ann, wife of Edmund Pearse of the King's Arms Inn, Longford
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65952262

Transfer of the licence for the King's Arms from Edmund Pearse
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65952404

'All persons having claims on the undersigned during his absence...'
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65949717

Edmund Pearse departed for London
Add: 'Departures 3 April the bark Union, 327 tons, Webster, for London'
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4158999

M

Add: all in 1839

Add: Some other Trove results here
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/category/newspapers?keyword=%22edmund%20pearse%22&l-state=Tasmania&sortBy=dateAsc&startPos=0

Thank you so much, I've just seen he departed alongside his soon-to-be wife number 2: Mary Ann Beaumish. So now I know her MMN and that they met in Tasmania. Much appreciated.

Married as Mary Ann Hockaday a couple of days after landing in London, witnesses John and Ann Beamish? All very curious!

There's a Mary Ann Beamish arrived in Van Diemen's Land in 1834
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2p/

Add - oops, Neale1961 found it first!

It's very strange. Wonder how and why she changed her name from getting on board the ship to marrying him straight after the voyage?