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Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello Troops,
 trying to match family legend with known facts.
My 2xG grandfather David McClure was born in Cloghroe circa 1822. He married Margaret Temple in Stranorlar in 1843.
David's son Samuel McClure and his brothers migrated to Victoria Australia circa 1868. Prior to leaving they were in farm house in Magheranappin. Apparently no room for the sons in the house/farm. This farm was in the hands of the GREGG family and the legend has it that they were related to the Australian McClure [ per above mentioned Samuel].
My 25 years of digging have found no direct connection but recently unearthed an entry in the Convoy Presbyterian Church burial records that could link the Gregg to McClure thru the Temple's.
This entry was James Stevenson GREGG [1872-1911] who married Elizabeth Jean TEMPLE [1898-1983].
Looking for HALLMARK & AGHADOWEY, hopefully McClure/Temple/Gregg family or those in the know to help fill some gaps.

Cheers
Jack Gee
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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 November 20 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter Co. Derry; Jackson Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott Co. Derry; Neilly Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy Co. Antrim; Nixon Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble Co. Sligo

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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 November 20 15:45 GMT (UK) »
1903 marriage lists bride from Killygordon, daughter of joseph Temple.

In 1911 her father in Gregg household-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Convoy/Magheranappan/509002/

Temple family in 1901-
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Killygordon/Cavan_Upper/1198584/

Probate of the Will of Joseph Temple late of Calhame Killygordon County Donegal Farmer who died 20 February 1911 granted at Londonderry to Joseph Elliott and James Temple Farmers. Effects 290.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05404/4509611.pdf (age 88)

see next post

Elizabeth born 10 Sept.1877- mother Mary Matilda Wray-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02998/2099023.pdf

Marriage of Joseph & Mary Matilda-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11204/8105996.pdf

Added- possible Joseph's father Joseph-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06363/4825988.pdf
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 November 20 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Death of Elizabeth's father Joseph Temple in 1915 aged 85 at Broadpath.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05266/4461405.pdf

Broadpath townland
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/raphoe-south/convoy/convoy/broadpath/

James Temple in 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Convoy/Broadpath/508816/

KG

Edited to Add:
James Temple (son) was the informant on his father's death record.
Researching: Cuthbertson Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter Co. Derry; Jackson Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott Co. Derry; Neilly Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy Co. Antrim; Nixon Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble Co. Sligo

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Researching: Cuthbertson Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter Co. Derry; Jackson Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott Co. Derry; Neilly Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy Co. Antrim; Nixon Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble Co. Sligo

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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 November 20 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:
James Wray TEMPLE to Annie Maria CALDWELL on 1st November 1909 in St. Johnston Presbyterian Church. Annie residing at Broadpath...father Samuel Caldwell, a farmer.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10035/5650242.pdf

Three children born 1911- 1918
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01q2z/

KG
Researching: Cuthbertson Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter Co. Derry; Jackson Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott Co. Derry; Neilly Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy Co. Antrim; Nixon Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble Co. Sligo

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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 November 20 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:
James Wray TEMPLE to Annie Maria CALDWELL........

Death of James' wife Anne Maria in March 1963 at Broadpath. The informant was her son Samuel J C Temple.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1963/04290/4104726.pdf

KG
Researching: Cuthbertson Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter Co. Derry; Jackson Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott Co. Derry; Neilly Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy Co. Antrim; Nixon Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble Co. Sligo

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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 November 20 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Aghadowey and Kiltiglassen you have filled many gaps.
Up to your usual high standards.

Cheers
Jack Gee
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Re: Gregg - Temple - McClure connections
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 November 20 09:03 GMT (UK) »
All of the above proved the connection of the Father/Daughter - Joseph and Elizabeth Temple of UpperCavan/Killygordon to the Gregg family of Magheranappin with the marriage to James Stevenson Gregg in 1903.
To complete the circle do you have access to records proving the connections of the following McClures to Temple line of Upper Cavan/Killygordon?

MargaretTemple bc 1823 d.1914 Killynure. married 1843 Treanamullin to David McClure bc.1822 Cloghroe. David McClures daughter Eliza Anne 'Beth' McClure.b.1854Killynure.d.1916 Cavan Upper married 1892 Convoy Presbyterian Church to William 'Will' Temple.bc.1863.d.1901. Cavan Upper.

The townlands of Cavan Upper, Treanamullin & Killygordon are all within a bulls roar.
So a good chance that all of these Temple persons are somehoe related?

Cheers
Jack Gee
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