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Unknown whereabouts/death
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone
I'm trying to find where John Postlethwaite was in 1871, if he was still alive and, if not, when he died.  This is what I already know:  Born 1814 Crossthwaite, Cumberland.  Parents: William P and Ann Lingey (Lindsey? several different spellings)  Wife, Mary Ann Roberts (m.1842) and 4 children. I have records up to 1861 where his last known occupation is a Turnkey in a House of Correction
Previous to this, he was a Private in the 2nd Life Guards in 1835 and in 1842 is recorded as being a Corporal (Paddington)  He was discharged in 1843 for health reasons. Census in 1851 and 1861 shows him as working as an Officer in a House of Correction in Clerkenwell. Haven't found anything concrete after this. There is a death record for a John Postlethwaite in 1875 in Southwark, St Saviour but he is described as a gentleman by his daughter.  Not sure about this.  Thanks

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 November 20 20:51 GMT (UK) »
I think this must be the Southwark death you're mentioning:

John POSTLETHWAITE age 60 Mar qtr 1875 SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 118

So the age matches your John.
If the daughter is the informant, does her name match the children you've found?
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 November 20 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Could be the Southwark death?
Liverpool Mercury, 24 March 1875
Deaths
POSTLETHWAITE— March 21, in London, John, eldest son of the late Thomas Postlethwaite, of Scathwaite, near Ulverston.

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 November 20 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Could be the Southwark death?
Liverpool Mercury, 24 March 1875
Deaths
POSTLETHWAITE— March 21, in London, John, eldest son of the late Thomas Postlethwaite, of Scathwaite, near Ulverston.

Burial at City of London & Tower Hamlets - John Postlethwaite age 60 -abode Penton/Panton Place, Walworth-buried 24 March 1875



1871
RG10/614 Folio   48 Page 18 -  29 Carter Street, St Mary Newington
John Postlethwaite age 56 born Ulverstone, Lancashire
Mary 51 born ... Cumberland
Johns occupation ..... and commission agent.  Could say Wire Copper  ::)

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 November 20 17:24 GMT (UK) »
I am struggling a bit with this one. I can't find a marriage to a Mary Roberts or the registration of children. Where did you find them please. (not doubting you just trying to view for myself)
Crosthwaite seems to be both Cumberland and Westmorland

Did John marry a second time to Elizabeth. The 1861 I found which fits your description his wife if a much younger Elizabeth

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 November 20 17:39 GMT (UK) »
The 1842 marriage :).  It took me a while to find it

June qtr 1842     
POSELTHWAITE    John       
ROBERTS    Mary Anne       
Kensington    3   226
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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 November 20 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Edwin Poselthwaite b 1851, Clerkenwell mmn Roberts

(Census has Elizabeth as wife and mother)
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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 November 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for replying.  I don't think the Liverpool death record is for the John I'm looking for as his father was William and not Thomas  The informant was Ann and there was a daughter of his called Mary Ann, so a possible BUT it's his occupation that doesn't tally.  I'll check the 1871 Census you sent Rosie.  Thanks
Mary Roberts and John got married on 8th May 1842  It has been mis transcribed as Possetthwaite!
The children are found in the parish records e.g Edwin John 1851 Clerkenwell 

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Re: Unknown whereabouts/death
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 November 20 17:56 GMT (UK) »
No wonder I could not find it even with exact matches turned off!