Author Topic: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851  (Read 1307 times)

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 29 November 20 23:09 GMT (UK) »
think Margaret's family are probably non-conformist as well. Not finding baptisms.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 29 November 20 23:17 GMT (UK) »
think Margaret's family are probably non-conformist as well. Not finding baptisms.

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Thanks osprey, that too follows down in some branches of the family. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #20 on: Monday 30 November 20 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much to everyone for the help yesterday. I had only been hoping to find out where Margaret Stephens was from as without the 1851 i didn’t have her on a census at all. I never expected you to find both sets of parents and siblings. A tree on ancestry has a photo of Theodosia’s death certificate and i will look into the possibility - from that tree - of her maiden name being David. Thanks again.   
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #21 on: Monday 30 November 20 17:34 GMT (UK) »
well, there is a birth record from Henllan Amgoed Independent for Theodosia David born 8 March 1784
at Llanboidy. The previous year, there's a Theodosia Philipps born 22 June 1783 also at Llanboidy.

Haven't spotted a marriage for either couple as yet.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #22 on: Monday 30 November 20 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi osprey, i found that baptism, but then a marriage of a Theodosia David to someone else (can’t remember who and only on my phone at the moment).

Edited: the one i found was in Pembrokeshire so probably not her.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #23 on: Monday 30 November 20 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Although the baptism fits with her age at death, the first child i’ve found was born in 1814, making her around 30 at the time. And 49 when the youngest Sophia was born. Guess strange spellings don’t help with first and / or surnames. But i’m thrilled to have Theodosia 😀
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #24 on: Monday 30 November 20 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Re names, one of their daughters (Mary) married a William Esau (or Esan, or Evan). GRO has several children as Esan. One of the children was Esau, variously transcribed as Esau Esau or Esan Esan 🙄
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #25 on: Monday 30 November 20 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Esau seems more likely. There's a small newspaper item about a William Esau being charged with setting a snare/poaching on Mr Vivian's lands in Margam parish in 1857

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Re: David Walters and family, Michaelstone super Avon, 1851
« Reply #26 on: Monday 30 November 20 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Esau seems more likely. There's a small newspaper item about a William Esau being charged with setting a snare/poaching on Mr Vivian's lands in Margam parish in 1857

I agree, and most of the images look more like Esau. Found 2 of the children’s burials at Michaelston-super-Avan, both transcribed as Esan, and here it’s clearly Evan as his first name but with Esau / Esan as his surname.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....