Pollokshaws - Agnes CLARK.

[Rowan Tree]

Hi,

Wondering if anyone can help me with a baptism for Agnes CLARK daughter of Alexander CLARK and Catherine GRAHAM?

Going off the census, Agnes was born in Pollokshaws. From source to source Agnes' estimated year of birth changes;
61 census = 1841
71 census = 1842
81 census = 1843
I've not found Agnes in 91
01 census = 1844
Agnes is recorded as age 22 on her 1861 marriage (so c. 1840 birth)
On Agnes' 1904 burial she is recorded as age 60 (so c. 1844 birth)

I don't have any record of Agnes before the 1861 census where she is living in Edinburgh. She married Thomas KENWORTHY in Edinburgh in 1862.
In 1869 Agnes and Thomas are living in Hyde, Cheshire.
In 1871 Agnes and Thomas are living in Bradford, West Yorkshire.
In 1881 Agnes and Thomas are living in Sunderland, Durham.
In 1901 Agnes and Thomas are living in Royton, near Oldham in Lancashire.
Agnes dies in 1904 in Royton.

If anyone could suggest a baptism for Agnes, or any siblings, or the 1851 census, I'd be delighted. Also, I'd be more that happy to order a birth certificate for Agnes but have never ordered a Scottish birth cert. before and don't really know how to proceed. Agnes and Thomas really intrigue me as they moved around so much and appear to have only had two children (or two that I can find) and only one of these children appear to have survived.

Many thanks for reading 

[Forfarian]

The easy bit first.

To get a Scottish birth/marriage/death, census, old church record, will or various other documents, go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, register and invest in a few credits. Searching the indexes is free but you need to use credits to view the document. Once you have viewed it, you can download it or just leave it on your account for future reference.

This is when it gets more difficult in your case, however. Statutory registration started in Scotland in 1855, so there is no birth certificate as such. You need to look in the church records for anything before 1855. The bad news is that I have done this and failed to find any record of your Agnes Clark's baptism, or of any siblings.

There is a very small chance that it's lurking somewhere in a register that hasn't been digitised, but the overwhelming likelihood is that the record of her baptism, if it ever existed, has not survived.

There is a record of the marriage of Alexander Clark and Catherine Graham in Eastwood in 1829.

You should, however, be able to find her in the 1851 and, depending on when she was really born, 1841 census. Best place to look first is FreeCEN https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

There is a listing in the 1851 census of Agness Clark, 10 and Archiball Clark, 7, pauper children, in the household of Ann Dowd, pirn winder, in Eastwood (Pollokshaws is in the parish of Eastwood) who might be yours. If so there could be something in the Eastwood Kirk Session records about them, and also in the Eastwood Parochial Board records, assuming that both sets of records have survived.

The Eastwood Kirk Session minutes are in the National Records of Scotland, though there has been talk for a long time about them becoming available on Scotland's People.

For the Parochial Board records I'd start with the Mitchell Library in Glasgow https://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Poor-Law.aspx

[WILLIAM 1]

i cant find any information on agnes clark she is not registered for birth and she was married in 1863 st.anderws edinburgh i looked in scotlands  people

[DuncanM]

There is a potential 1841 census record both on Scotlandspeople and Freecen that might be worth checking out.

Agnes CLERK age 1
and Cathran GRAM age 30
Pollokshaws King Street
Scotlandspeople reference 562/6/31

[Rowan Tree]

Thanks so much everyone 

Your posts really help as I'm rather inexperienced with anything but English/Welsh family history.

I'm going to follow the leads you provided and see where they take me.

Thanks again, Rowan Tree 

[Rowan Tree]

Forfarian, I can't find the 1851 census you mentioned. I searched under all three names but can't find them...? Should I be able to find this on Scotlands People?

[MonicaL]

Some details on a possible brother to Agnes https://gencomity.org/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I3537&ged=family

Might help with the seaches for the family entry in 1851.

Monica

[Neale1961]

1851 census on FreeCen
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1550a5f4040b9d6e63705b/agness-clark-1851-renfrewshire-eastwood-1841-?locale=en

[MonicaL]

And there is Achibald, the newly found brother!

Parents died between censuses? Did they show as deceased on Agnes's marriage reg?

Monica