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Ireland Help with Eggins family
« on: Wednesday 09 December 20 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rootschatters,

I am posting this here because I have no idea where this famuly comes from in Ireland.  If the Mods whish to move it to somewhere specific thankyou. 

I have a family that looks very much like they come from Ireland.  the head at this point is Joseph Eggins and i think this person died in England in 1887. 
The Joseph Eggins I am looking for married Ann Eggins and I believe that this was in Ireland. The 1841 census has them born in Ireland.   
they have a daughter Ann Eggins who married when she was 16ys old this was to Patrick Murphy. That marriage was in England in 1845. They had several children and then Patrick died in 1861 and Ann Murphy married Richard Peel.

I am hoping to find the elder Joseph Eggins and His wife Ann  ?? from Ireland.

Ann immigrated to Australia  and died here in 1902. Unfortunately the care place has not got a full record of her parents.  Just Joseph Higgins and Ann   with a word very hard to read.  The image is not good.  My first thought was Foget or Fogit but it could be "Forgot".  She had senile dementia.

I have tried roots.ie church records but drew blanks.
Any thought would be really appreciated.
Thanks for reading.
Essnell

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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 07:59 GMT (UK) »
If this is your Joseph then he would have been born about 1816

EGGINS, JOSEPH       71 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in WESTMINSTER  Volume 01A  Page 385
 
Bear in mind that the age at death will be what the person giving the details thought it was.

Ann's marriage for reference

Marriages Mar 1845

EGGINS    Ann        St Martin    1   147
MURPHY    Patrick        St. Martin    1   147
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 08:12 GMT (UK) »
There is a death recorded for what I assume is the elder Joseph

EGGINS, JOSEPH       71 
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in STRAND  Volume 01B  Page 256

This gives a birth year of about 1783
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 08:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Girl Guide,
Thankyou for the quick replies. 
What's in your first reply is the group I am looking into.   So a "yes" to that information. The second one at Strand I have put aside as it just does not really fit to anything else.

The Westminister person seems to have had a son also Joseph Eggins and twin daughters Ann and Mary all born in Ireland.  In 1841 young Joseph is 22 and the twins are 15ys old. 
The Wesminster Joseph's wife is Ann "somebody"  also from Ireland.  And I don't know where in Ireland.

It is one of the twins that died in Australia in 1902 Ann daughter of Joseph Eggins and Ann unknown.
It is a thought that the Strand one might be the previous generation?
Thankyou for this
Essnell

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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 08:50 GMT (UK) »
This is the Strand person

1851 1510/3r2/19
 Joseph 67 yrs b Devon with Ann b Ireland.
Daughter Mary b Ireland.
There is a daughter Jane Bacon and children.

Next door but one is Patrick Murphy with wife Ann 22 yrs and family.
I can give further details if you need them.
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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Jane Eggins, father Joseph a labourer married James Bacon in 1843.
Witnesses were Joseph Eggins and Jane McKenna.

There was an Elizabeth McKenna with the 1841 family.

I am not sure what you mean by the ‘groups’. The family are in Strand parish in 1841. I think there is only one family.
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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Altered....

Ancestry London BDM
St Mary Islington 1 Jul 1861
PEEL Richard widower Supervisor PO   father Edward PEEL, weaver
MURPHY Ann     widow                            father Joseph EGGINS coach trimmer
res. for both  5 Wilton Sq
Witnesses Thos BILBY    Mary BACON

Baptism   Old St Pancras
EGGINS James Albert William  b. 9 Apr  1815  bapt.     25 Feb 1849
Res.  St James Market   parensr Joseph / Ann

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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 10:28 GMT (UK) »
1851 shows these birth places:
Joseph Eggins b Brandwood, Devon
Ann Eggins b ‘Burricane’ Ireland
Mary Eggins b Mount Rath, Ireland
Jane Bacon b Ashborn, Ireland

I can’t see Brandwood, Devon
I wonder if ‘Burricane’ is Borrisokane, Tipperary
Mountrath - County Laois (formerly Queens County)
Ashbourne - County Meath

In a later census, young Joseph gives County Tipperary as birthplace.

What religion were the family?
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Re: Ireland Help with Eggins family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 December 20 10:57 GMT (UK) »

The Telegraph 21 Dec 1902 p4   Benevolent Asylum Dunwich
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/172588908?
.... Ann Peel, 71. native of Devonshire, England......