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Can you help date this Davies or Jones photo please?
« on: Thursday 10 December 20 17:53 GMT (UK) »
The portrait belongs to my wife's family here in UK, and may show a member of the Davies or Jones family whose roots are in South Wales (Dowlais, Merthyr) and North Wales (Wrexham) areas.  We do not know exactly who the lady is.

The format:  The portrait is a large (11 inches x 14 inches) tintype photograph that has been rather amateurishly embellished with colour at some point.  There are no markings or postage stamps etc. on the reverse and no markings on the frame.

The frame style is consistent with an Eastlake revival frame of a design popular in about 1880, and the reverse of the tintype was packed into the frame using fragments of the New York Herald of 1881.  These facts, plus the popularity of the tintype in America, suggest that the portrait was made in America prior to 1881 and subsequently sent to family Wales.  As tintypes were patented in 1854, we already have a reasonably narrow window in which the the photograph could have been taken (i.e. 1854-1881), but any any help in further refining the date would be most appreciated.

Can you date the style of dress and bonnet?  Can you estimate the woman's age?

Any help gratefully received!

Gary

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Re: Can you help date this Davies or Jones photo please?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 December 20 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gary and welcome to RootsChat, my guess would be early 1860s and her age I would guess at 60s.
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 December 20 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gary

That's a very fine photo. I love the expression and agree with Carol about the date. I'm not sure of the age as she seems to have lost some teeth - maybe 50s - 60s - though I see no lines  :-\



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Re: Can you help date this Davies or Jones photo please?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 December 20 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to both Carol and 'Gadget' for the input.  It sort of confirms my own thoughts about the portrait and will help narrow the search!

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Re: Can you help date this Davies or Jones photo please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 December 20 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gary...I thought she deserve a freshen up  :D
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 December 20 14:31 GMT (UK) »
I also did a softer version.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Carol,

Thank you very much - she looks a lot nicer, and the softer version makes her look quite approachable!  Lovely work. Thank you.

Gary