Baptism and Marriage Anne Mylvaarntyn Rushen please

[Blue70]

Good work. I wonder if the Molly part in Ann Martin's name is a middle name or nickname? Perhaps they thought Molly was like the Manx prefix Myl etc and they sometimes wrote it down as a surname.


Blue

[trish1120]

What a fantastic result by finding that Will.

I am glad I was some help with the confusion over Anns maiden name..

Trish

[Blue70]

The images for the Esther Martin of Patrick will are available on Family Search. Text says, "I leave and bequeath unto my daughter Ann wife of Thomas Nelson of KK Christ the sum of ten pounds Manks". Kirk Christ is Rushen so it's definitely right:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSND-G9F2-Z?cat=233934


Blue

[margaret1]

Good work. I wonder if the Molly part in Ann Martin's name is a middle name or nickname? Perhaps they thought Molly was like the Manx prefix Myl etc and they sometimes wrote it down as a surname.


Blue

Blue, this is an interesting read:

Taken from Manx Surnames by A. W.  Moore  1885

"Where the syllable Mac was prefixed to personal names beginning with Giolla (" servant of"), the initial syllables have been frequently contracted into .Myl, the surname MAC GILCHRIST, for instance, becoming MYLCHREEST. Early in the 16th Century the prefix Mac was almost universal; a hundred years later it had almost disappeared."..........A. W. Moore

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v02p044.htm
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v03p083.htm

Below  could also be relevant to the surname Martin...

...."MYLVORREY, contracted from MacGiollavorrey, 'the son of Mary's servant,' is also Anglicised into MORRISON, but the original name still survives, though not so common as formerly. Its spelling has proved a great puzzle to the keepers of the Parish Registers, as will be seen from the great variety of forms given below-

...........*MOLLYVORREY [1685], MYLEVOREY [1713], * MOLLYVERREY [1717], *MOLLEYBOIREY [1721], -*MOLLEVORY [1725], MYLWOIREY [1737], *MOLLEBORRY [1740],MYLEVOIREY [1762], MYLVORREY [1763], MYLVOREY [1782], MYLEVOIRREY [1786]."

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v04p130.htm

Margaret

[margaret1]

The images for the Esther Martin of Patrick will are available on Family Search. Text says, "I leave and bequeath unto my daughter Ann wife of Thomas Nelson of KK Christ the sum of ten pounds Manks". Kirk Christ is Rushen so it's definitely right:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSND-G9F2-Z?cat=233934


Blue

Great find - thanks for posting the link.

Margaret

[Blue70]

Good work. I wonder if the Molly part in Ann Martin's name is a middle name or nickname? Perhaps they thought Molly was like the Manx prefix Myl etc and they sometimes wrote it down as a surname.


Blue

Blue, this is an interesting read:

Taken from Manx Surnames by A. W.  Moore  1885

"Where the syllable Mac was prefixed to personal names beginning with Giolla (" servant of"), the initial syllables have been frequently contracted into .Myl, the surname MAC GILCHRIST, for instance, becoming MYLCHREEST. Early in the 16th Century the prefix Mac was almost universal; a hundred years later it had almost disappeared."..........A. W. Moore

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v02p044.htm
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v03p083.htm

Below  could also be relevant to the surname Martin...

...."MYLVORREY, contracted from MacGiollavorrey, 'the son of Mary's servant,' is also Anglicised into MORRISON, but the original name still survives, though not so common as formerly. Its spelling has proved a great puzzle to the keepers of the Parish Registers, as will be seen from the great variety of forms given below-

...........*MOLLYVORREY [1685], MYLEVOREY [1713], * MOLLYVERREY [1717], *MOLLEYBOIREY [1721], -*MOLLEVORY [1725], MYLWOIREY [1737], *MOLLEBORRY [1740],MYLEVOIREY [1762], MYLVORREY [1763], MYLVOREY [1782], MYLEVOIRREY [1786]."

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v04p130.htm

Margaret

It's strange that the funny spelling doesn't go back in time I had previously thought it was a Myl or Moll prefix surname but it may be a case of her being Anne Molly Martin and the Molly has been mistaken for part of the surname? My main Manx surname is Mylchreest so I always presumed Molly was a prefix. It's still a bit of a mystery how they came to write that down but I'm happy with Martin being the real surname.


Blue