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Offline Daltonator86

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Fleming Family tree
« on: Monday 14 December 20 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I have an ancestor by the name of Ann Fleming, who was born around the mid-1780s in Mayfield, Sussex (at least that is what the Census gives us). The only two sources surrounding her are the 1841 & 1851 Censuses. In both cases, she is living in the Tunbridge area and is married to Edward Powell (who apparently was born in Wales). In the 1841 record, both of them have put a large 'N' on the box for 'no' concerning if they were born in Kent or not. She is apparently 55 years old at the time (which would mean she would have been born in 1785-86). However, in the 1851 Census it seems to more specific, in that it lists her as being born in Mayfield although she is 68 years old here (meaning a birthday of 1782-83). Either way I can't find any birth records on a particular Ann Fleming born in Mayfield. I am curious about this ancestor because 'Fleming' in of itself is an interesting surname of Scottish/Flemish origin.....

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Re: Family tree
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 20 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry  but how do you know her maiden name of Fleming if in 1841 & 1851 censuses she is married to a Powell?

PS might be a good idea to change the title of this query to Ann Fleming.

For reference
1841 HO107; Pce: 463; Folio: 30; Page: 20
1851 HO107; Piece: 1614; Folio: 213; Page: 6

ADDED: Have found an entry in Pallot's Index for a marriage of Edward Powell to Ann Fleming in 1807 in Tonbridge.
ANd a baptism
Maria Fleming Powell
4 Nov 1814
Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England
Father:   Edward Powell
Mother:   Ann Powell
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Family tree
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 20 16:48 GMT (UK) »
In the 1841 record, both of them have put a large 'N' on the box for 'no' concerning if they were born in Kent or not. She is apparently 55 years old at the time (which would mean she would have been born in 1785-86). However, in the 1851 Census it seems to more specific, in that it lists her as being born in Mayfield although she is 68 years old here (meaning a birthday of 1782-83).

In the 1841 census ages for over 15 year olds were rounded down to the nearest five years.
So she could quite possibly have been aged 58 at the time of that census, but, because of rounding down, entered as 55.
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Re: Family tree
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 20 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Had you looked on familysearch.org?
A possibility:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD6-PR36
   
Ann Flemming
Christening 22 Sep 1782
Mayfield, Sussex, England
Father's Name:   Thomas Flemming
Mother's Name:   Martha Flemming

There's also a baptism in Framfield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQCN-ZZG
Ann Fleming
Christening 29 Jan 1786
Framfield, Sussex
Mother's Name:   Ann Fleming
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Family tree
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 December 20 16:55 GMT (UK) »
You are in luck.

There is one Ann Flemming bap. Mayfield in the 1780's to Thomas & Martha Flemming on 22 July 1782.

This is the only occurrence of the Fleming/Flemming name in the parish in the 1780's.

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Austin/Austen - Sussex & London
Bond - Berkshire & London
Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire

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Re: Family tree
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 December 20 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Ah, right! Thank you.... That seems likely...
Concerning her maiden name the only source I actually have is the marriage certificate from 1807 in Tunbridge....