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wilfred brown born 1912
« on: Monday 14 December 20 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Would love some help, to start me reaserching.
the above married in 1937 to Florence.S.Wilson, ulverston area, his mothers mn  KNIPE,
the above was born in Barrow in Furness, thankyou Margaret

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 20 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Exactly what help are you asking for - it's not clear in your post

As you have his mmn - have you looked on freebmd for a Brown/Knipe marriage to establish his parents names?  www.freebmd.org.uk.  I see there are 2 possibles so you may have to buy a copy of his birth cert to establish which parents unless you have more info.

Both couples married  before 1911 & you will find them on the 1911 both living in Barrow in Furness www.familysearch.org.uk

Have you looked for him on the 1939 register?
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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 20 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Jun 1907 Ulverston 8en1725
BROWN Henry
KNIPE Mary
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVG-1JQ
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49L-3HS
BROWN, DOROTHY mmn KNIPE 
GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 736
Married:
Jun 1936 Ulverston 8e 2083
ARMER Cyril
BROWN Dorothy

Dec 1908 Ulverston 8e 1312
BROWN James
KNIPE Clara
Death:
Sep 1961 Ulverston 10f 561
BROWN Clara 79   
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X92Y-Z7Y
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49L-3HT
BROWN, HAROLD mmn KNIPE 
GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 704
Possible marriage:
Sep 1936 Ulverston 8e 2293
BROWN Harold C
HODGSON Ethel A

BROWN, WILFRED mmn KNIPE 
GRO Reference: 1912  M Quarter in BARROW-IN-FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 1435
Married:
Sep 1937 Ulverston 8e 2365
BROWN Wilfred
WILSON Florence S

BROWN, ERIC mm KNIPE 
GRO Reference: 1913  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 1351

BROWN, ALBERT mmn KNIPE 
GRO Reference: 1915  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 1291
Possible marriage:
Jun 1940 Ulverston 8e 2429
BROWN Albert
SPRY Doris M

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 20 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Parents of Henry and James, if they are brothers:

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4JL1-2T2

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVG-1JQ

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X724-36N

Sep 1882 Barrow F. 8e 1269
BROWN Tyson
SMITH Emma

Deaths:
BROWN, TYSON  78 
GRO Reference: 1932  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 816
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7XS9-41T2
BROWN, EMMA  80 
GRO Reference: 1940  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 1575

Birth of Henry, but I can’t see James:

BROWN, HENRY mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 672

1861, 1871, Tyson Brown:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PX-VRM

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-R6G

1871, Henry and Sarah: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-1NR

BROWN, MARY  ANN mmn BELL 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in WHITEHAVEN  Volume 25  Page 151

BROWN, JOHN mmn BELL 
GRO Reference: 1852  M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN  Volume 10B  Page 482

BROWN, TYSON mmn BELL 
GRO Reference: 1854  M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN  Volume 10B  Page 454

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 02:22 GMT (UK) »
The only one I can come up with for the Knipe girls, assuming they are sisters:

Dec 1880 Ulverston 8e 1135
KNIPE Thomas    
SWAINSON Ann

Possible deaths:
KNIPE, THOMAS  64 
GRO Reference: 1917  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 995
KNIPE, ANN  84 
GRO Reference: 1938  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 831

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q1RR-NPZ

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GF-HFS

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49K-W9D

KNIPE, CLARA mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 788

KNIPE, MARY mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 800

KNIPE, HERBERT mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 784
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWBQ-4BL
Possible marriage:
Dec 1914 Bolton 8c 817
KNIPE Herbert
PARKINSON Mary G
Possible deaths:
KNIPE, HERBERT  64 
GRO Reference: 1949  S Quarter in ST. HELENS  Volume 10F  Page 316
KNIPE MARY G 82
Mar 1964 PRESCOT 10F 242

KNIPE, LIZZIE mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1886  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 829
Married:
Jun 1915 Ulverston 8e 1998
JACKSON Sydney
KNIPE Lizzie
Possible death:
JACKSON, LIZZIE  70 
GRO Reference: 1957  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 10F  Page 601

KNIPE, WALTER mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 821
Death:
KNIPE, WALTER  24 
GRO Reference: 1916  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 1082

KNIPE, FRANK mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 824
Death:
Jun 1971 Ulverston 10f 1601
KNIPE Frank 11Jan1893

KNIPE, EDWIN mmn SWAINSON 
GRO Reference: 1896  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 774
Married:
Jun 1922 Ulverston 8e 1945
KNIPE Edwin
KNEALE Alfreda
Deaths:
Sep 1977 Barrow/F 1 91
KNIPE Edwin 23JA1896
Jun 1978 Barrow/F 1 74
KNIPE Alfreda 31JY1900

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 04:46 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Knipe:

Dec 1840 Bootle 25 22
KNIPE George
TYSON Ruth

Deaths:

KNIPE, RUTH  89 
GRO Reference: 1900  S Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 430

KNIPE, GEORGE  88 
GRO Reference: 1904  D Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 466

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGK5-46N

1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PN-NW9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PN-NWQ

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRMS-WX6

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-LQQX

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4JGV-7W2

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVP-694

KNIPE, GEORGE mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 25  Page 34
Possible death:
KNIPE, TYSON  2 
GRO Reference: 1844  J Quarter in BOOTLE UNION, CUMBERLAND  Volume 25  Page 21

KNIPE, RACHAEL mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in BOOTLE CUMBERLAND  Volume 25  Page 34
Married:
Sep 1866 Bootle 10b 793
KENDAL William J
KNIPE Rachel
Deaths:
KENDALL, RACHEL  73 
GRO Reference: 1917  M Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 985
KENDALL, WILLIAM 76 
GRO Reference: 1920  M Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 907
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51Q-LKT
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-L6PC
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4J5Q-PZM
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVP-694
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X724-FT7

KNIPE, ELIZABETH mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 21  Page 87
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBXM-4NX

KNIPE, GEORGE mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in BOOTLE UNION CUMBERLAND  Volume 25  Page 35
Married:
Dec 1872 Bootle 10b 1114
KNIPE George
JACKSON Ann
1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PN-FFL
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V51Q-LKT
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-LWKZ
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4JGP-NW2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVP-314
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X724-4N2

KNIPE, THOMAS mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in BOOTLE CUMBERLAND  Volume 10B  Page 456
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-B3P

KNIPE, EDWARD  TYSON mmn TYSON 
GRO Reference: 1855  J Quarter in BOOTLE CUMBERLAND  Volume 10B  Page 498
Married:
Dec 1873 Whitehaven 10b 1006
KNIPE Edward Tyson
BELL Mary Jane
Jun 1907 Bootle 10b 1356   
KNIPE Edward Tyson
KNIGHT Martha
Deaths:
KNIPE, MARY  JANE     54 
GRO Reference: 1904  D Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 466
KNIPE, EDWARD  TYSON  66 
GRO Reference: 1922  M Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 1202
KNIPE, MARTHA  73 
GRO Reference: 1932  M Quarter in BOOTLE  Volume 10B  Page 857
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-LWZY
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4JGY-4ZM
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSVP-6M3
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X724-FP2

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 December 20 06:58 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou ALL for the imfo Warm Xmas, Margaret.

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 December 20 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Wilfred and Flo were my grandparents, although I never knew Wilfred. I have a lot of information on Florence's side of the family, but nothing on Wilfred. I put up a request for help on another website and a very helpful poster directed me here.
Their son, Fred, is my dad. I know very little about this side of my family tree. Wilfred apparently ran off with 'another women' in about 1945. My nanna's parents arranged the divorce and he was never spoken about. My mum is fairly confident she went to school in Barrow with a couple of my dad's cousins, but there are just so many Browns in all the records, it has been a very frustrating search.
Are you related to Wilfred and Flo by any chance?

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Re: wilfred brown born 1912
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 December 21 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Magslote,
I have found out quite a lot about Wilfred and his ancestors if you are interested?