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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 December 20 07:26 GMT (UK) »
Forest of Dean Family History website

Marriage by Licence: 1 September 1717 Avening

Thomas EARLE - aged 21 and Elizabeth HAYNES - aged 22 - both residence Avening

and

Marriage by Licence: 4 February 1724

Patience HAYNES - aged 30 and William SHIPWAY - aged 22 - both residence Avening.
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Reading: British History on Line

There were 3 mills at Avening .... Avening Stream Mill was for Cloth.


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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 December 20 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Eric.

Ok have looked at Anc records and there are 2.

9th June, Fathers Samuel with a question mark and the image actually says 5th June and another 5 June Father John.
I think a correction has been made and records rewritten out by a different person.

The entry immediately above both of those records is for a Joseph Grove*. 

I think that your John 1744 has parents John/Deborah nee Earle-e

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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 December 20 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks people for all the information. That explains why i could not find a marriage for a Samuell Sansom!!! At the start i thought there was a Sansum link between Dursley and Avening. I have just got to work out if the John Sansum Wills of 1732 and 1749 at Avening are in my direct line.

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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 December 20 11:59 GMT (UK) »
I am glad I could help.

Looking at the images cleared it up to me.

There was a Samuel around but his Wife was Rebecca
Marriage;
02 Sep 1743 Kingswood (Wotton)    
Rebeccah SOMMERS
Samuel SANSOM

Before 1780, Nailsworth depended on a series of tracks to bring it into contact with places as far as Tetbury, six miles to the southeast, and Dursley, five miles to the southwest. Tetbury was the second most important market town in the Stroud region and like Horsley, Avening, and Minchinhampton, was located in Longtree Hundred. Dursley was located at the center of the lower cloth-manufacturing district of the county, near the Vale of Berkeley.

John/Deborah married Avening but seem to have bapt children Avening and Dursley;
Sarah 1744 (age not given at bapt so may have been born before marriage)
John 1744
Thomas 1752 Avening abode as Nailsworth***
Deborah 1761
May be other children but that all I could find on FreeREG





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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 December 20 12:16 GMT (UK) »
I was puzzled by the timing of the John and Sarah Sansombaptisms in 1744 - within 2 months of each other and separate locations - parents John and Deborah.
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I had a look at Ancestry (keep forgetting it's available via library link under Covid) which revealed -
1) 22 Apr 1743, Sarah dau. of John and Deborah Sansom, Avening (image/transcript)
2) 22 Apr 1744, Sarah dau. of John and Deborah Sansom, Avening (transcript only)
3) 22 April 1745, Sarah dau. of John and Deborah Sansom (Avening (image/transcript)

Looking at the images "3)" above should read 1743. It appears on page 27 - clearly headed 1742 and 1743 appears after 4 entries (begins April - the old calendar). Page 28 following is clearly headed 1744.

But "2)" above cannot be explained given absence of image.

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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 December 20 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Has anyone had a search for the birth of  a John Sansum, (Deborah's husband). I can't see anything myself. There are 3 John Sansum/Samson Wills in Avening. This could be quite a difficult job I think.

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Eric

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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 December 20 18:59 GMT (UK) »
PS - I have found a Baptism for a John Sansome at North Nibley by Dursley 1711 on Anc.

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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 December 20 10:30 GMT (UK) »
RE the Wills 1732/1749;

Burial;
St Mary, Avening
JOHN Sansom 03 Feb 1732/3, Husband of Susannah

Marriages same Church for JOHN Sansum/Sansom;
27 May 1710 to Susanna BERNARD
20 Oct 1722 to Susanna KING
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Re: John Sansum - Tailor of Dursley
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 December 20 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Anc. has the baptisms of (image/transcript - date as transcribed)

1) John Sansom, 13 Jan 1725/6 (old calendar), Avening, parents John and Ann
2) John Sansom, 15 Jan 1725/26 (old calendar), Avening, parents John and Ann
3) John Sansom, 2 Sep 1721, Avening, parents Thomas and Ann

Looking at the image of "2)" above it looks like "13" - incorrectly transcribed