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Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« on: Saturday 19 December 20 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello again. This lovely photo is of my orphaned Grandfather with his brother & sister on the North Yorkshire Moors. I believe the mystery lady, is an aunt on their maternal side, however there were several. I am working on the theory that it is Hilda Schumm 1890 to 1956 and I have been sent a photo of Hilda in later life to compare.

I was wondering if any kind person could sharpen up the features of the lady on the moors, to help me compare them. Many thanks  :)

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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 December 20 20:30 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 December 20 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks japeflakes   :) Can I also ask your opinion on whether the lady in picture 2 could be the lady on the moors?


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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 December 20 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Too hard for me to say.  Sorry. Others will know better

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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 December 20 21:14 GMT (UK) »
It could be.

I wonder if Tomkin or Peter could get more detail in her face with one of their AI filters :-\
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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 December 20 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Looks like a different person; no bags beneath the eyes and a squarer jaw line, regards, John.

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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 December 20 22:15 GMT (UK) »
In later life, people do acquire bags under their eyes  :-X  Also, note the high cheek bones.

I don't think we can really say yay or nay unless we get a more clear enhancement.

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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 December 20 23:19 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Gadget.
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Re: Herbert, Henry & Sylvia Bender circa 1918 with mystery aunt
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 December 20 02:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Chrissyan. Iíve been AWOL from my workbench so I'm sorry to be so long putting this together.

Iíve tried sharpening the ladyís face a number of ways.

Be aware that all methods sharpen artificially, some more so than others.

Onto the original image below Iíve superimposed three different attempts plus the picture of your great-aunt.

For the first one I used the tools available in the normal program I use.

For the second one I used a tool called Gigapixel AI. In this instance it has exaggerated any lines in the very blurry original without employing a lot of artificial intelligence.

The third tool is called Remini. It appears to work a bit like a very sophisticated identikit. From a database it tries to find face parts that best match those in an original photo. Imagine a witness to a crime sees a grainy figure at night then a face is put together from various parts. So the image you see in my third attempt is definitely not the real thing.

Having said all that, looking at the shape of her head, her cheek lines, deep chin and so on, I think there is a good chance that the two women are the same at different ages.

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