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A place called Logan?
« on: Sunday 20 December 20 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Please does anyone know of a place called Logan?  According to a military record, an ancestor was born in "Logan Argyll", probably in the 1790s.
I can't find it on any modern map.
Any suggestions appreciated from people who know the area.
Thank you.
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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 December 20 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Please does anyone know of a place called Logan?  According to a military record, an ancestor was born in "Logan Argyll", probably in the 1790s.
I can't find it on any modern map.
Any suggestions appreciated from people who know the area.
It is quite likely to be an anglicisation or misreading of Lagan or Laggan, which means a little hollow or hollows. Unfortunately there are many places called Lag(g)an all over Scotland.

What was the name of the person and do you know roughly when he was born?
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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 December 20 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I had come across Glen Logan, but thought it doubtful, at least according to the modern map.
I like the Lagan idea.
His name was Andrew Sutherland, and the fellow in the military record was born around 1787.
I have several candidates from the military discharge records, but this one fits best - so far.  This chap has been a puzzle for years!
Thanks all.
pwhhh


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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 December 20 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Please does anyone know of a place called Logan?  According to a military record, an ancestor was born in "Logan Argyll", probably in the 1790s.
I can't find it on any modern map.
Any suggestions appreciated from people who know the area.
It is quite likely to be an anglicisation or misreading of Lagan or Laggan, which means a little hollow or hollows. Unfortunately there are many places called Lag(g)an all over Scotland.

What was the name of the person and do you know roughly when he was born?

There is a place called Logan.  It comes under cumnock.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan,_East_Ayrshire
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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 December 20 19:08 GMT (UK) »
This is the entry that is being discussed https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8856538 for background.

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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 December 20 19:35 GMT (UK) »
There is a place called Logan.  It comes under cumnock.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan,_East_Ayrshire
It turns out that there are many places called Logan, according to the Ordnance Survey Name Books.

There is a Logan Hill in Old Deer, Aberdeenshire.
There are a Logan Bridge and Logan Hags in the parish of Auchinleck, Ayrshire.
There is a Logan Burn in the parish of Galston, Ayrshire.
There is a Logan Hill in the parish of New Cumnock, Ayrshire.
There are a Logan House and a Logan Quarry in the parish of Old Cumnock, Ayrshire.
There are a Logan Burn, High Logan, North Logan and South Logan in the parish of Sorn, Ayrshire
There is a Logan Burn in the parish of Gretna, Dumfries-shire.
There are a Logan House, Logan Mains and Logan Burn in the parish of Half Morton, Dumfries-shire.
There is a Logan Burn in the parish of Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfries-shire.
There is a Logan Water in the parish of Langholm, Dumfries-shire.
There is a Logan Knowe in the parish of Moffat, Dumfries-shire.
There is a Logan Gail in the parish of Wamphray, Dumfries-shire.
There is a Logan Head in the parish of Westerkirk, Dumfries-shire.
There are a West Logan and an East Logan in the parish of Buittle, Kirkcudbrightshire.
There is a Logan Farm in the parish of Balmaclellan, Kirkcudbrightshire.
There is a Logan Water in the parish of Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire.
There are a Logan House, Logan Burn, Logan Cottage  and Logan Lee in the parish of Penicuik, Midlothian.
There is a Logan Burn in the parish of Glenholm, Peebles-shire.
There are a Logan Craig, Logan Head and Logan Burn in the parish of Drummelzier, Peebles-shire.
There is a Loch Logan in the parish of Gargunnock, Stirlingshire.
There is a Port Logan in the parish of Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire.
There are a Logan House and a Logan Windmill in the parish of Kirkmaiden, Wigtownshire.

Now the really interesting thing about all these is that not one of them is in Argyll or in any other Highland county. Nevertheless, James B Johnston's The Place Names of Scotland says that the name Logan is from Gaelic lagan, meaning a little hollow. (As is Logie, of which there are at least as many again.)

As pwhhh's original query specified that the Logan (s)he is looking for was in Argyll, it looks as if all these Logans can be eliminated.
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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 December 20 20:09 GMT (UK) »
A possible with residences & a Chapel nearby?

Add...Laggan, Argyll

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Re: A place called Logan?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 December 20 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Good find.

There are
Laggan Wood, parish of Kilmartin.
Laggan, parish of Kilmore and Kilbride.
Laggan (which I think is the one found by Rosinish), Laggan Bridge, Laggan Bay, Laggan Point and River Laggan, parish of Kilarrow and Kilmeny (Isle of Islay).
Lagganulva, Laggan Bridge, Laggan Burn and Laggan Bay, parish of Kilninian (Isle of Mull).
Laggan, parish of Torosay (Isle of Mull).
Laggan Burn, parish of ?Ardchattan.
Laggan-an-Airgid (Lagganergie), Lagganmore and Lagganbeg, Parish of Kilninver and Kilmelford.
Laggan and Loch Laggan, parish of Muckairn.
Laggan-roaig, parish of Kilcalmonell and Kilberry.
East Laggan and West Laggan, parish of Campbeltown.
All in the county of Argyll.

See http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=125907974
and http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=125908068
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