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Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« on: Tuesday 22 December 20 09:30 GMT (UK) »
It does make me wonder how many people will be giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas.

Here we are with a massive spike in cases, and families are getting together for Christmas as they are not forbidden from doing so.

As I type this, two ambulances have gone past in the last minute or so.

I can understand that it can be a very isolating time for people at the best of times and the need for company.

How many people will break whatever rules or guidance over Christmas, or how many safeguards will be thrown out of the (closed) window?

We've come this far, surely we can hang on a bit longer. The first dose of vaccine has already been given to half a million people here in the UK so far.

Take care everybody, love your family, love your neighbour. Let's not give the gift of Covid-19.
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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Christmas at any other time of year is not Christmas.  It may be a family get together but without the razzamatazz of christmas it just won't feel the same.

Can't really see how people from a covid free household, who have isolated in the days before christmas day who will travel enclosed in their own private vehicle to another covid free household who has also isolated are prime targets to spread it.

Own toilet facilities, distanced at table, windows cracked open and sitting on own sofa so no real mixing.  And saw a diagram the other day of how, in a restaurant setting, covid was spread to socially distanced people via the ventilation system as there was more in the air than previously thought.  That doesn't bode well for opening windows does it - you will be letting the virus in.

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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 10:58 GMT (UK) »
I live in Thurrock.

I will not be seeing any family who live at different addresses.  Just standing in the front garden to wish them Merry Christmas.  Yesterday I was collecting up food shopping for my little group of pensioners. Given that we are in Tier 4 it still amazes me how many ignore the advice put in place to keep us safe.


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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nic, I live in Thurrock and today my husband has managed to get his Covid jab at our local hospital  on Christmas eve, the hospital is rife with Covid so I am really worried, Christmas isn't cancelled, just the  celebrations postponed to a happier time and call it something else

I will see my family probably on the doorstep, will ring a few friends on their own and might even call into a friend on her own and talk to her through her patio door, will save my glass of wine till I come back

We have to make  the best of it this year

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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 16:50 GMT (UK) »
And saw a diagram the other day of how, in a restaurant setting, covid was spread to socially distanced people via the ventilation system as there was more in the air than previously thought.  That doesn't bode well for opening windows does it - you will be letting the virus in.

Was the restaurant ventilation system re-circulating air?
Opening a window at home is letting different air in from outside (I won't say "fresh air" as it depends where the home is situated), it's not letting the virus in. You might get a chill from sitting near an open window but you won't catch a virus.
All windows on a bus were open. I spent 40 minutes huddled-up against the draught on a cold, windy December day. I had to balance risks of being cold, inhaling traffic fumes through my mask, and Covid. The bus journey was necessary, returning from a hospital visit. Total number of passengers was 6. My area was in Tier 4 then. Came out of Tier 4 on 11th December and will return to it on Boxing Day.
Jason Leitch, Scotland's medical guru warned ages ago that Christmas wouldn't be normal. Nicola Sturgeon told us a week ago to limit visits to 1 day at Christmas. She said she intended to meet her parents for a walk but wouldn't be having Christmas dinner with them.   
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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 17:33 GMT (UK) »
We are sticking to the rules.... just the two of us and the rest of the family on zoom so we can enjoy our Christmas lunches together safely without infecting each other..,
.itís one day .... and weíve come this far.... itís the sensible thing to do in my opinion... we have two young grandsons who have been at school and could be asymmetric... they both had a tests a couple weeks ago and were negative but still not worth the risk Iím afraid... we donít live close enough to do the garden thing and they are in tier 4 anyway and us in tier 2.....
Weíve decided to have a big family celebration when ever we can all come together safely... how ever long it takes....

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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 17:36 GMT (UK) »
We made the decision back at the beginning of December that it wouldn't be safe to meet up with our daughter over Christmas (she usually comes to stay for a few days but this year we had hoped to go and stay with her in her new house). So planned a quiet Christmas with just Mr Marma and myself. Good decision -- she is in Tier 4, so we are not allowed to meet anyway.
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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 17:50 GMT (UK) »
And saw a diagram the other day of how, in a restaurant setting, covid was spread to socially distanced people via the ventilation system as there was more in the air than previously thought.  That doesn't bode well for opening windows does it - you will be letting the virus in.

Was the restaurant ventilation system re-circulating air?      I don't know specifically but it implied that you get it as this variant was circulating in the air much more so than the previous one.
Opening a window at home is letting different air in from outside (I won't say "fresh air" as it depends where the home is situated), it's not letting the virus in. You might get a chill from sitting near an open window but you won't catch a virus.
All windows on a bus were open. I spent 40 minutes huddled-up against the draught on a cold, windy December day. I had to balance risks of being cold, inhaling traffic fumes through my mask, and Covid. The bus journey was necessary, returning from a hospital visit. Total number of passengers was 6. My area was in Tier 4 then. Came out of Tier 4 on 11th December and will return to it on Boxing Day.
Jason Leitch, Scotland's medical guru warned ages ago that Christmas wouldn't be normal. Nicola Sturgeon told us a week ago to limit visits to 1 day at Christmas. She said she intended to meet her parents for a walk but wouldn't be having Christmas dinner with them.
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Re: Giving the gift of Covid-19 this Christmas
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 December 20 17:54 GMT (UK) »
We are sticking to the rules.... just the two of us and the rest of the family on zoom so we can enjoy our Christmas lunches together safely without infecting each other..,
.itís one day .... and weíve come this far.... itís the sensible thing to do in my opinion...

Caroline

Exactly how we feel for one day it's not worth the risk better to be safe than sorry   :)