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Born at sea?
« on: Wednesday 23 December 20 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I'm new here so apologies if this is the wrong place to post!

One of my direct ancestors (born around 1801 or 1806) puts his place of birth on the censuses a couple of times as "North Sea (B Sub)" which I think could mean he was born on a ship on the North Sea and that he was a British Subject.

I haven't been able to find any other information on his birth, baptism or parents and wondered if anyone has come across this before and could give me any advice or pointers?

Thank you in advance :-)

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Re: Born at sea?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 December 20 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

If you'd like to give us his name and details of which census you have him on then people can have a look for you  :)
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 December 20 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello and welcome to Rootschat  :)

Are you sure it says North Sea and not North B(ritain), which was an old name for Scotland.

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Re: Born at sea?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 December 20 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you!

His name was Henry Williams and he's on:

1851 England Census: living at 32 North St, Middlesex, Poplar, 34, London.  This one says North Sea B Sub.  It could be North Lea, but I can't find anywhere plausible called North Lea!  And it doesn't really look like how the clerk writes "L"s

1861 England Census: living at 14 Salter St, Middlesex, Limehouse, District 20, London.  On this one it says North Sea, or again could be North Lea

He's also on the 1841 one but no birthplace on that one of course

I don't think it is North B - that letter doesn't look like the way the clerk writes B in other places.  But very interesting to know that North B was used for Scotland, I had no idea!

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Re: Born at sea?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 December 20 19:39 GMT (UK) »
ellemmdee --- a warm welcome to Rootschat from me also.

As suggested, if you provide his name and any other details you may have - someone may be able to help.

It is possible that his father was in the Army or Navy. Sometimes wives travelled with their spouse.

A baptism may have taken place at the next port of call. Or the child may be included in the 'Births at Sea' records. Often the dates of such records go back to WAY BEFORE the start of Civil Registration - which started in England in July 1837. (There are some of these non parochial births on The Genealogist website under Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Records - RG33).

Extract of info below from the Genealogist Website.

 What is RG33?

General Register Office:Overseas Birth, Marriage, death and Burial of British Subjects including those onboard ships. Also Lundy Island Devon. Original registers, notebooks and copies of entries in registers kept by incumbents of English churches and missions, British embassies and legations etc. These cover the period 1627 to 1960 and are very detailed.

West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.