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Harriet Davies
« on: Thursday 24 December 20 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Phew, where do I start? Help! I'm new at this. My Grand Mother, Harriet Davies, was born in, well that varies depending on which census record you look at. Her husband put Wiilmington on the 1911 census. Now I've looked for a Wiilmington in Shropshire to no avail. She was born in 1879 and on her marriage certificate it shows her father as George. I can't find any Harriet who's father was George. I have found a John Davies with at least her at the right age on the 1881 census for shropshire and at least three other siblings that I know of; all of the right ages. On the 1881 census I've found a Harriet Davies who's father is John and she is born in Chirbury. I can't find her on the 1891 census. Is there anyone out there who might be related?

My name grand father was a Joseph Pemberton, who also came from Shorpshire.

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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 December 20 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Harriet & Joseph are in Ardwick, Lancashire in 1911.

Presumably this is their marriage - What information does the marriage give regarding her fathers occupation, who were the witnesses
Sep qtr 1900   
Davis    Harriet       
Pemberton    Joseph       
Chorlton    8c   1246

1901 living Ardwick
Joseph Pemberton   age    25   occ Lurry Carter (Railway)   bn Whitchurch, Shropshire
Harriet   age 22   bn Whitchurch, Shropshire
George   age   2   bn Manchester, Lancashire
RG13/Piece 3675 Folio 80 Page 17




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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 December 20 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Marriage image is available on FindMyPast:

14 July 1900 - St Paul, Chorlton on Medlock

Joseph Pemberton, 23, bachelor, Carter.  Father:  George, Farm Labourer
Harriet Davies, 21, spinster.  Father:  George (deceased), Farm Labourer

Witnesses:  James Ashley and Martha Bayliss

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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 December 20 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you BumbleB  :)

I assume that the age of young George in 1901 should be 2 months rather than 2 years. It does not state months on image
PEMBERTON, GEORGE       mmn DAVIES 
1901  Mar Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 785
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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 December 20 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Her husband put Wiilmington on the 1911 census.

It actually says Willmitten.  Wilmington is in Chirbury parish near Bishop's Castle.

https://ukga.org/index.php?pageid=24930

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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 December 20 14:35 GMT (UK) »
I have no idea if this is relevant

The one witness on Harriet and Josephs marriage is James Ashley.

There is a birth on GRO S Qtr 1879 Harriet Davies MMN Ashley Newport in the Counties of Salop and Stafford.

There is a marriage for George Davies and Mary Ashley 1 Mar 1863 Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England although Georges occupation is Mariner, there is also a death for George Davies 1873 Liverpool Lancashire age 35 years occupation Sailor
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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 December 20 03:32 GMT (UK) »
All those that have replied so far to this request, I thank you for taking the time. Young George in the 1901 census is their son (Joseph and Harriet) who died later in 1903. yes, I got the Wiilmitten wrong. I still think this is, or should be Wilmington (guess or assumption on my part) John Davies who might be my great Grand Father, rather than the George on their marriage certificate. If it is John then he was born in Montgomeryshire (Kerry) which is just over the border from Chirbury, where, on the census for 1881 for John, Harriet appears age 2. I know its a long shot but I can't find a George, with a Harriet as a child who would be about 2 in any census of 1881 in Shropshire.

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Re: Harriet Davies
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 December 20 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I can see a family in Wellington, Shropshire with a father George (who is a farm labourer) in 1881 -  mothers name Mary. (Possibly Harriet's father?)

There is no Harriet present but there is a Harriet with Grandparents in Shrewsbury in the same census. Too early to say if connected but worth exploring more maybe?

A long shot - the mothers maiden name for the George/Mary children was Taylor.  There is also a Mary Ann Davies born 1879 March Qtr Wellington which seems to fit with a Taylor as mothers maiden name.  Could Mary Ann be Harriet?

Have to go out now but worth you looking at? Have you been able to establish Harriet's birth and death dates?

Alan