Rose Raymond, London/S. London

[DianaCanada]

Rose Raymond married James Richard Field, Mar Q 1911, Wandsworth district, and in the census of that year is living with James and his parents (Richard Field and Sarah Jane Kent) in Battersea, London.

On the 1939 Register and in the death indexes her birthdate is given as 28 Dec 1884.
I cannot find a Rose Raymond that fits that date, however I did find one baptized at St. James, Clerkenwell on 6 Feb 1882, born 28 Dec 1881.  No birth registration that fits there, either.
There are three Rose Raymonds born between 1880 and 1884, in Whitechapel, Islington, and Alderbury, Wiltshire (districts).
I found a Rose, daughter of John and Susan (Warne) Raymond, that might be her, though a couple of years older than b 1884.  Found Susan and children (4 younger than Rose), admitted to the Newington workhouse a few times.  John seems to have disappeared.
On the 1891, with Susan, she is b. Bermondsey, and on the 1911 (in Battersea) she is born Walworth.  In 1939 she is living with husband and what looks like some of their children, in Battersea.

Am hoping someone can help me figure out a way to identify her, without buying the marriage cert.

[CaroleW]

All the children have mmn Raymond which would rule out a prior marriage

[DianaCanada]

All the children have mmn Raymond which would rule out a prior marriage

Thank you, Carole.  Yes, there appears to be five children.

[Girl Guide]

I think you may have to resign yourself to obtaining the marriage certificate. 

I see from the 1911 that she claims a birthplace of Walworth.  If that is correct then finding out which registration district Walworth was part of at the time of her birth may assist.

I can't see any suggestion that the 1911 marriage is online which would have answered your query.

If her birth date is correct in the 1939 then her birth should have been registered in the March quarter of 1885.

You also have to consider the possibility that Rose was not her first name but was recorded as that in records or she preferred that name herself.

One of the frustrations of family history I'm afraid 

[jonw65]

The admission to Newington workhouse, 16 Feb 1893, has a birth date of 26.2.80 for Rose.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-X9DM-H

They had been sent over from the workhouse at Mint Street.

[jonw65]

They had been sent over from the workhouse at Mint Street.

But the A+D register for Mint Street, same day, makes Rose a bit younger, born circa 1883
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-Z3D7-G?i=355

Interestingly it says the family were removed.

[jonw65]

Southwark Register of Orders of Removal
Inwards
Susan Raymond + 5 children
Order served 30 Sep 1892
From St. Olave's

Number 982, two images
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1B-675X-3

[Girl Guide]

Oh dear sounds like Rose's birth date is all over the place.  It seems that Diana may well have to get the marriage certificate in order to verify the name of her father.

I don't think that 1911 marriage is online anywhere unless someone else can find it.

[jonw65]

I found a Rose, daughter of John and Susan (Warne) Raymond, that might be her, though a couple of years older than b 1884.  Found Susan and children (4 younger than Rose), admitted to the Newington workhouse a few times.  John seems to have disappeared.

Absent, yes!
I don't know yet if the St. Saviour's papers relating to the removal of the Raymond family are still about, but I have found the outwards order and related documents from St Olave's.
Fascinating stuff! Thirty odd images!
Looking for John. Letters from hospitals.
Rose aged 10.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/32967_605905_1384-00660