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John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« on: Saturday 26 December 20 21:40 GMT (UK) »
I have tried to find the death date and place of the above John Batten, born in London, Eng. Feb. 1828 He emigrated to Canada with wife Sarah and 2 chn in 1869, I have details of all of them except the death of John. He is mentioned in the Pittsburgh Daily Post on 21 Feb/ 1918, his 90th birthday, living with his daughter, Amy Pell but cannot locate his death after that.
Would love some help please to complete details of this large family of Battens, my main family line. I have tried on this site before a few years ago but am now hoping some other resources may have come to light.
Always hopeful!
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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 December 20 11:45 GMT (UK) »
HI Barrie,

Just a thought. Would it be worth an email/letter/facebook enquiry to South Side Cemetery to see if John is buried with Sarah ?
Amy is also buried in that Cemetery, maybe a family grave ?

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Sarah Batten

South Side Cemetery Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22102610/sarah-batten

Amy Peel

South Side Cemetery Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114232011/amy-c.-peel

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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 December 20 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Found this site  https://www.deathindexes.com/pennsylvania/

See Pennsylvania Death Records Indexes. Some of the years (eg. 1918, 1919) are in alphabetical order for the year; others years are in alphabetical order within index number for that year. Unfortunately these files don't respond to my usual PDF search function, even after downloading. Hence searching manually is a laborious process. Also, the deceased person's age is not listed.

Best I can find at the moment. Also, yet to spot him on the 1920 Census (might help narrow things down). Haven't checked the Allegheny specific sites.


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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 December 20 16:26 GMT (UK) »
The Pennsylvania death records have been online for quite a few years now.  I looked through them every which way possible I could think of and found nothing.  It’s possible that he got missed in getting a death record or his name was completely jumbled due to living in an old folks home. 

I also checked Ohio and West Virginia death records, as they are fairly close to that area of Pennsylvania and came up empty.

Perhaps contacting the church where he was mentioned as a bell ringer might yield some information, although the pandemic might limit their access to records.

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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 December 20 16:40 GMT (UK) »
I had spotted  "1925, John Batten, 53859, Noristown?, May 4".


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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 December 20 17:00 GMT (UK) »
I had spotted  "1925, John Batten, 53859, Noristown?, May 4".

Unfortunately that is not the John Batten we are searching for. He was born 1856

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Born 1856 - died 4 May 1925 Norristown, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132306760/john-batten

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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 December 20 17:14 GMT (UK) »
As mentioned, this site doesn't include age. Thanks for ruling this one out.

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Re: John Batten, Bellringer and Fire Escape patenter of Bellevue, Pittsburgh
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 December 20 17:25 GMT (UK) »
No problem. John was with his daughter Amy for his 90th birthday in 1918 (as per RJ on the other thread)  but he was not with Amy (his daughter) in 1920.  Quite possible he died between those dates, could be lost in a jumbled surname  :-\

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