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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 December 20 11:51 GMT (UK) »
One of my ancestors in the early/mid 1800s seems to have been an early genealogy enthusiast -- he revived several earlier maiden surnames as names for his children --  some of which were then used for several more generations. So even tho Trant is a rare surname there are several unconnected family groups but whenever I come across a "Baron Trant" or a "Beverley Trant" I know they are one of mine! One branch in the USA still use the name Beverl(e)y for the eldest son today but had no idea where it had come from, only that it was a family name. (Elizabeth Beverley married Thomas Trant back in 1803!)
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 December 20 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Whilst researching an in-laws family tree for them - I came across a non-conformist baptism where the child had been given the preacher's forname and surname as 2 middle names. (I can't remember the religion now).
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 December 20 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your answers.  I have considered that they could have been in-law or ancestors names etc, but I can see no link. I have often come across the mothers maiden name as a middle name though, and famous national figures such as Nelson for example.
So I can only think, as suggested above, that these must of been family friends surnames, although you would think it would be a first name as today. But fashions come and go with naming.
Yes Simpson was Martha's maiden name, but is found used as a middle name too.


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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 December 20 12:55 GMT (UK) »

It doesn't always have to be a relative, in the context of Northern Ireland, I have encountered 'Carson' given as a middle name in several instances (from Edward Carson), also in the military context, middle names like 'Kitchener' and 'Haig'.


I've also encountered the surname 'Wesley' incorporated as a middle name in Methodist families.
 

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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 December 20 12:56 GMT (UK) »

I've also encountered the surname 'Wesley'  incorporated as a middle name in Methodist families.


And in one instance the middle names 'Charles Wesley'.


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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 December 20 13:24 GMT (UK) »
I had 1st cousins 3 times removed in Scotland, Jane Ralph Henderson and Mary Dorans Henderson.
Ralph was their maternal Grandmothers maiden surname and Dorans was their maternal Grandfather surname.
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Reedy - Ireland to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Bradbury (False name?) - Oxfordshire to Queensland, Australia

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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 27 December 20 13:32 GMT (UK) »
One of my OH's ancestors had a very large number of children and after they had completed the old fashioned naming pattern I recognised the names of further children as originally belonging to childhood friends and neighbour s of the wife.  The neighbour that stood out was the child who held the name of the sea captain who had lived next door to the child's mother when she was young..I hazard a guess that the wife had the final say in naming the couple's children lol  :D
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy<br />MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell<br />Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie<br />Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell<br />Perthshire: Brown Ferguson<br />Wales: McCarthy, Thomas<br />England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells<br />Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 27 December 20 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Yes middle names were often family surnames.
Eg John Burley Coleman...his mother  a Burley who wed a Coleman.
And my great grandmother named her daughter Amelia Sarah  Amy Rippengal Linnett.
So useful in identifying my great great grandmother.( Amy Rippengal.)
Others even  had middle names named after battles!

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Re: Unusual middle names. Any ideas of why?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 27 December 20 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Gaffy --one of my own Methodist ancestors named John Crabtree -- registered and baptised by that name - later became John Wesley Crabtree. He must have added that middle name later, himself.
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.