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John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« on: Wednesday 30 December 20 00:23 GMT (UK) »
G'day all,

I am seeking information about John Whyte Black born about 1864 in place unknown, died 1933 in Leeton, New South Wales. I have been able to find some information on the Ancestry Library Edition, but nothing about his ancestors. I would appreciate your help. Thanks.
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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Is this the John W Black who married Margaret Sangster in 1901, Albury. If so, do you have the marriage certificate and what information does it give you?
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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Someone by the same name on a tree born 1864 in Wooragee, Victoria, Australia & married Elizabeth Veil

She was b 1859 Albury, New South Wales, Australia
Died 1906 Corowa, New South Wales, Australia

No marriage date/place.

Have you purchased his death cert. to see what info. it gives?

Add...Australian death index gives father as John.


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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 04:25 GMT (UK) »
Marriage in Victoria

BLOCK  Jno White   
ELLIOTT, Elizth Jane 
1894 
Reg 6026

A son-
BLACK Thos Wm
Elizth Jane ELLIOTT
Jno White BLACK
BEECHWORTH Victoria
1896 REG 8827

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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 04:32 GMT (UK) »
And a daughter

Isabella Margt Black
Abt 1898
At B Worth, Victoria
Year1898
Father Jno White Black   
Mother Elizabeth Jane Elliott   
Reg 761

The son above enlisted in WW1 and his service record is digitised.  There is  a letter from his father notifying change of address from Leeton to Coolamon.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Is this the John W Black who married Margaret Sangster in 1901, Albury. If so, do you have the marriage certificate and what information does it give you?

This marriage may be a second for John Whyte BLACK
Details-
John W BLACK
Margaret SANGSTER
Year1901
New South Wales
Albbry, (sic Albury?)New South Wales
 Reg 8644

 I think John was widowed in 1900

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/99846081?searchTerm=%22%20john%20%20black%20butcher%22~12

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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 06:56 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree. Looks like he was married twice. His marriage certificate might be the thing to look at for information about his parents.
Milligan - Jardine Glencross Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark Faulds Cuthbertson Bryson Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale Cater Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 07:03 GMT (UK) »
There was another child to John

Jessie BLACK
Wodonga, Victoria
year 1908
Father Jno Whyte BLACK
Mother Margt SANGSTER
Reg 7902

Margaret died-

Margaret BLACK
Father Alexander
Mother Margaret
Year 1931
At Leeton, New South Wales
Reg 11980

Her birth in Vic.
Margaret SANGSTER
Year 1871
Alexander SANGSTER
Mother JOHNSON
14264

Yes marriage certificate would tell a lot.

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Re: John Whyte Black. Seeking information.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 07:49 GMT (UK) »

Yes marriage certificate would tell a lot.

Sue




If I were choosing which of the 2 marriage certificates to get, I would go for the first to ELLIOTT in Victoria 1894.

They are currently $20 and there is no waiting time in Victoria's system as they are downloaded to you computer immediately after payment .

This link below explains the process (remember it is indexed  as BLOCK not BLACK)

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history.

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