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Query About Twin Births
« on: Wednesday 30 December 20 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Someone has asked me this and I have no idea.

In England if there is a twin birth but 1 twin was stillborn would the time of birth be recorded on the surviving twin's birth certificate?

I hope someone here knows the answer.

Thanks  in advance.
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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Not an easy answer. If both rich twin children (especially both male) survive there is a valid reason to know the timing of the twins birth for the future. Who gets the manor house or title etc. But my opinion is that if one twin lives and one is dead there is no reason to record the death of the unfortunate one.

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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Just to digress, in some European countries The second twin born is according to The Code Napoleon ,considered to be the first conceived which just goes to show they knew nothing about the division of one egg in identical twins!
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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 20:41 GMT (UK) »
AntonyMMM would know as he used to be a Registrar.

I've messaged him.

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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 20:53 GMT (UK) »
For the purposes of registration, a time (in England/Wales) is only shown for a multiple LIVE birth .... so if one of twins is stillborn, no time should be recorded for the surviving child.

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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Antony   Thanks for that, I'll pass it on.
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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 21:43 GMT (UK) »
For the purposes of registration, a time (in England/Wales) is only shown for a multiple LIVE birth .... so if one of twins is stillborn, no time should be recorded for the surviving child.

May I confirm that practice stands for multiple LIVE births in New South Wales ... so not just twins, but triplets or more ... if only one is born live, then no further word/s need  to be recorded for that birth registration.  If more than one is born live, then  the word elder or eldest is used depending on the number of live births.

My post is my wording after two of my ancient rellies have phoned me re this thread.  They are both retired former senior officers with NSW BDM,  and they send their greetings to Anthony MMM for his many explanatory posts on RChat.   

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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Not an easy answer. If both rich twin children (especially both male) survive there is a valid reason to know the timing of the twins birth for the future. Who gets the manor house or title etc. But my opinion is that if one twin lives and one is dead there is no reason to record the death of the unfortunate one.
 

I don't think so. The stillborn twin cannot inherit and cannot possibly pass anything down to any descendants. 

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Re: Query About Twin Births
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 December 20 22:15 GMT (UK) »
No it's not (or not compulsory that they do)