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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 31 December 20 18:10 GMT (UK) »
What was the father's occupation? Fruit something?
Father's occupation is Fruit Planter  :)
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« Reply #19 on: Friday 01 January 21 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Manchester Prison records list her husband as John, 23 Cross Street, Oldham. She had one child living. Her birthplace "on the sea". Religion RC.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510507%2F00039.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62004165%2F1

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510430%2F00138.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62217772%2F1

23 Cross Street doesn't appear to be listed in the 1871 census.
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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:10 GMT (UK) »
If she was born at sea maybe her father was a mariner at the time or foreign, hence the possible name beginning DE something..


In my town which used to be a busy port, many children I taught had Portuguese fathers who sailed in regularly on the cargo boats. Some settled here.


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« Reply #21 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:12 GMT (UK) »
If it is Delmar, that means "of the sea" !
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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps this is the child:

SUTCLIFFE, AMY  ISADORE  mmn ROTHWELL 
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 682

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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Cant find her  in 1871 but in 1881 is with a Bolton or Belton Family from memory.

EDIT down as adopted daughter.
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:38 GMT (UK) »
There's also this baptism in Eccles in 1864:

Amy Wilson Sutcliffe daughter of John (a mariner) and Amy. Born 14 May 1863

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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Manchester Prison records list her husband as John, 23 Cross Street, Oldham. She had one child living. Her birthplace "on the sea". Religion RC.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510507%2F00039.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62004165%2F1

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4510430%2F00138.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62217772%2F1

23 Cross Street doesn't appear to be listed in the 1871 census.
This is incredibly helpful. Thank you!  :)

I've wanted to be able to pin Amy's first husband down for awhile now.
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN

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Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 01 January 21 13:43 GMT (UK) »
If she was born at sea maybe her father was a mariner at the time or foreign, hence the possible name beginning DE something..

In my town which used to be a busy port, many children I taught had Portuguese fathers who sailed in regularly on the cargo boats. Some settled here.
Thanks, Pat - this is very interesting  :)
ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN