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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Draperstown: Trowlan, Quinn, Convery, Kelly, McKenna, Griffin, Sergeant, Hamilton, Taylor.
Monaghan: Duffy, McArdle
Sligo: Egan.
Mayo: Loftus.
Dungannon: Reilly, Milligan, Ryan, Harte.

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Why would patrick Loftus with a father John Loftus and a mother Margaret gallagher have “Dalton” included in surname....

http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246700/007246700_00162.pdf
Draperstown: Trowlan, Quinn, Convery, Kelly, McKenna, Griffin, Sergeant, Hamilton, Taylor.
Monaghan: Duffy, McArdle
Sligo: Egan.
Mayo: Loftus.
Dungannon: Reilly, Milligan, Ryan, Harte.

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Why would patrick Loftus with a father John Loftus and a mother Margaret gallagher have “Dalton” included in surname....

http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246700/007246700_00162.pdf

Perhaps to distinguish him from other people named Patrick Loftus? There may have been more than one Loftus-Gallagher marriage and potentially more than 1 Patrick Loftus with a Gallagher mother. His father, John Loftus may have had Dalton added to his name in census and land records to distinguish him from others in the townland with the same name.
You could try to find John Loftus on Griffiths' Valuation to see how his name was recorded on that.

I'm descended from a Loftus-Walsh marriage and it can't have been the only one.
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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Here you are - 1870 Tubbercurry district

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11376/8176806.pdf

He gave his age as 28 and she 25 so they were born well before birth registrations began.
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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 10:35 GMT (UK) »
So on ancestry i have found a Thomas Loftus with a brother patrick who enlisted his Reg number in RD fusilers was 26983.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1219/images/30971_172284-00929?treeid=113834766&personid=220142446203&hintid=1018628402762&usePUB=true&_phsrc=qMg19&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.76735510.2047386366.1609928113-818731067.1609928113&_gac=1.250881714.1609928131.EAIaIQobChMIwfLuxImH7gIVkb7tCh1BfQzPEAAYASAAEgLU8vD_BwE&pId=1187886

but how can i be sure its him?

There was another Thomas loftus from Bonniconlon at the same time who had quite a colourful career in volunteers so i don't want to confuse the two - its possible that the other Thomas Loftus joined army to get experience to bring to volunteers??
Draperstown: Trowlan, Quinn, Convery, Kelly, McKenna, Griffin, Sergeant, Hamilton, Taylor.
Monaghan: Duffy, McArdle
Sligo: Egan.
Mayo: Loftus.
Dungannon: Reilly, Milligan, Ryan, Harte.

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 11:12 GMT (UK) »
So on ancestry i have found a Thomas Loftus with a brother patrick who enlisted his Reg number in RD fusilers was 26983.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1219/images/30971_172284-00929?treeid=113834766&personid=220142446203&hintid=1018628402762&usePUB=true&_phsrc=qMg19&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.76735510.2047386366.1609928113-818731067.1609928113&_gac=1.250881714.1609928131.EAIaIQobChMIwfLuxImH7gIVkb7tCh1BfQzPEAAYASAAEgLU8vD_BwE&pId=1187886

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 12:07 GMT (UK) »
BabyKate,

You ask relevant questions and we are trying to help.
Is the information we offer any use to you?

Did the Loftus/Egan marriage above help?

Was this Bonniconlon information of help?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=842202.msg7087412#msg7087412

It is just nice to know if we are helping you with your searches.

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Really helpful Heywood - its amazing how a little nudge in the right direction can get you going again  ;)

Sometimes when you are too close to and going round in circles someone looking from the outside in makes it all seem obvious.

Its a fantastic tool - we'd be lost without it.
Draperstown: Trowlan, Quinn, Convery, Kelly, McKenna, Griffin, Sergeant, Hamilton, Taylor.
Monaghan: Duffy, McArdle
Sligo: Egan.
Mayo: Loftus.
Dungannon: Reilly, Milligan, Ryan, Harte.

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Re: Thomas loftus & Mary Egan Bonniconlon
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 17:52 GMT (UK) »
On Thomas death record below - does it say he was an Army Pensioner?? I can’t make it out, if so how could I find out about his army record - I can’t find any trace of him in any records I’ve searched?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1958/04372/4134561.pdf

Age recorded at death was 72 if transcription is correct. I thought at first it was 92. This can't be the Thomas Loftus who married in 1870. It's unlikely that a person who married in 1870 would be alive 88 years later in 1958. The man who married Mary Egan in 1870 said he was 28, therefore born around 1842. The informant for the 1958 death was the widow of Thomas.
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