Mary Ann Amelia CRUSE or DUCK or CARTER or FURZE?

[manukarik]

In my family tree, I have Mary Ann Amelia CRUSE (widow, born about 1828 and died 27 May 1889 in Plumstead, Kent) marrying James John DUCK on 4 June 1854 in Bethnal Green. Her father is given as William CARTER (Coachman). Yet almost all the sources, I can find (including others' family trees) suggest that her father was Thomas FURZE (born about 1793 in Carrington, Somerset and died about 1870 in Richmond, Surrey and married to Elizabeth HOLLOWAY). Mary Ann Amelia had a son Edward Thomas CRUSE, who was one of the executors of her Will.

She possibly married Thomas CRUSE in Shoreditch in 1845. He died in 1854, which is when she married James John DUCK. Her father on the marriage entry is given as John Goode FURZE.

I'm going round in circles!

Does anyone have any advice on how to get to the bottom of who Mary Ann Amelia's parents actually were or have her in their family tree?

[PaulineJ]

Ignore the trees, and work from the records.
A tree is never a source, It's a hint, and not necessarily an ounce of sense to it.

Pauline

"Mary Ann Amelia had a son Edward Thomas CRUSE, who was one of the executors of her Will."
Ok, so when/where was he born, and what was his MMN?

CRUSE, EDWARD  THOMAS     FURZE 
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 314
CRUSE, MATILDA       FURZE 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT LUKE, MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 295

CRUSE, EDWARD  THOMAS     SHEPHERD 
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST)  Volume 02  Page 134

[manukarik]

Thanks, Pauline! What you say makes a great deal of sense. Thank you!

I've asked for a copy of M A A Duck's Will to see if that gives me any pointers.

I hope 2021 is kind to you and yours!

[Jamjar]

Ignore the trees, and work from the records.
A tree is never a source, It's a hint, and not necessarily an ounce of sense to it.

Pauline

"Mary Ann Amelia had a son Edward Thomas CRUSE, who was one of the executors of her Will."
Ok, so when/where was he born, and what was his MMN?

CRUSE, EDWARD  THOMAS     FURZE 
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 314
CRUSE, MATILDA       FURZE 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT LUKE, MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 295

CRUSE, EDWARD  THOMAS     SHEPHERD 
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST)  Volume 02  Page 134

1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTX-73S

Jamjar

[CaroleW]

Marriage of Thomas Cruse & Mary Ann Furze March qtr 1845 Shoreditch 2  352

[CaroleW]

Marriage 18.3.1845 St Leonard Shoreditch - both shown as full age.  Cert also shows "Friday before Easter" after the date of marriage

Thomas Cruse bachelor occ cellarman - father John  occ carman
Mary Ann Furze spinster father John Goode Furze occ is either shoemaker or schoolmaster

Witnesses John Goode & Mary Cruse

[CaroleW]

1861 census  - 1854 marriage relates to this entry.  Thomas Cruse death recorded March qtr 1854 aged 32

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-HDZH

1854 marriage cert does indeed show her as a widow - father William Carter

Daughter Clara's birth reg shows mmn Cruse

Dec qtr 1853 a son Thomas John Cruse mmn Furze

[CaroleW]

From Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM34-Y2Y

[manukarik]

Thank you all! Apologies, as I missed some of your replies and am now back on the hunt with the help of all your suggestions....