What do you think . buried or given away.

[heywood]

Have you contacted the current parish for any burial record?

I wondered if the absent twin was severely disabled and taken away to an asylum/hospital/home?

Was the cause of death an acceptable one for a baby that age?

I still can’t understand how a death certificate would not be for an actual death and therefore there would be a burial of some kind.

However, there are people who do strange/criminal/deceptive  acts 

[Eilleen]

heywood

over the years parish church has been contacted , nothing constructive came out of it unfortunately.

you have hit the nail on the head,  there are people who do strange/criminal/deceptive  acts.

Eilleen

the doctor could do as He liked, and write what He liked , this happened on many occasions.

[brigidmac]

I investigated reports of child traffiking in 1906 the couple gave babies to.infertile couples who.mostly registered them as their own

At least 50 children were involved so I can see it happening 30 years later or even now .dna would be only way to prove origin.of these children I have names of birth mothers a few putative fathers and some of the "adoptee".families whose names were in.newspapers

I.imagine their descendants assumimg dna test is wrong because they.have all paperwork but dont.match.great great grandparents dna

yours is a.very sad story..
Surprising how many women were locked away.for the conveniance of their husbands
I can see why you have nightmares ..thanks for sharing .

[brigidmac]

Im confused by.reply 22
San Are you refering to.the "dead" twin being found on marriage certificates
How do you know the childrens names ? Elaine didnt state that

Could you post some examples of the crossing outs

Were birth certs altered if a father was proved to be birth.father.?

[heywood]

I remember that brigidmac.

Maybe the children weren’t his, or he believed that. He registered them with his middle name and then certified the death.
It looks as though the marriage was over by 1939 register time.
You would think that, as someone thought earlier, that he would be well known in the area and people would know.
I am just thinking aloud now 

Also, if they were twins who both survived the birth, why is there not a time on the birth certificate?
Why call them both the same first name?
Are there two birth certificates?
I can see there are two registrations so presumably must be.
Oh it’s strange. 

[Eilleen]

brigidmac,  thank you for that insight, I believe that just because these things happened in the past, still does not make them not important .



heywood. the time of birth was not on both birth certs, because the Father filled them in , He was the Father, He was the only one visiting Her at her isolated home , after He had certified the death of Her partner .a few months earlier. There was a lot of money in the home and other things, it really is a very long sad story, He never lived with Her as such , He carried on living at His parents home , He would "stay over " up until the day He arranged transport to the asylum .
The picture of the twin and His Father shows , no mistake who the Daddy was 

This picture was taken after His Father took Him for a day out from the boarding school He had put Him in, a bit later in the day, He told the boy " your Mother has died ". she had only just been put in the Asylum, jumping the gun a bit ! .

[heywood]

Thanks for sharing this - it is quite unnerving.

[Eilleen]

heywood

There is lots more, hence the sometimes sleepless nights.

would love to find where twin was buried in Jan 1939, 

at least that would stop Me looking for Him x

[Marmalady]

heywood. the time of birth was not on both birth certs, because the Father filled them in ,

But the Father does not "fill in " the birth certificate -- it is the Registrar who fills in all certificates after questioning the informant. And if he is registering two births she would surely question him further as to times etc
Unless the Father / local doctor was also the local Registrar?