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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 03 January 21 18:30 GMT (UK) »

Family may have used Scottish naming pattern for the names of their children (lots of links for this, such as www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm).

When you say that family papers indicate father was called John, what is their source?

Monica

I need to read up on the Scottish naming patterns --will have a look at the link

As for the family papers:
My Grandfather remembered that as a young child (so back around 1900) whilst he was playing one day he half listened to his father and older brother talking about the family tree. He father drew a rough tree out on a piece of paper going back many generations of some branches. After  my grandfather died, we found that piece of paper and I now have it. This tree has the father as John.
Whilst most of the information has checked out, there are a few mistakes -- so I use it as a guide rather than a precise document.
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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:08 GMT (UK) »
It is amazing how accurate these old family trees can be, but as you say, you need to walk through everything and reconfirm when original certificates etc are not included.

Just been reading though your posts on the family. You have a lot of detail there which is great as it fills things out very quickly. I don't think I found this info in your notes, although you may have it somewhere.

You have two possible sisters for the three potential brothers, Jane/Jean and Ann.  You pick up on William from his marriage to Eleanor Lewis in 1849 and have him from there until his death. An Engineer by trade.

How about this entry up in Scotland for 1841:

Ann Campbell 30
George Campbell 14 Engineers Apprentice
Jane Bulloch 25   Cotton Power Loom Weaver
William Bulloch 25 Engineer Journeyman

Address: North St, Barony

Re ages above. The 1841 census is always tricky for ages and limited with other info that we see in later censuses as you know. Everyone over 15 is supposed to show with an age rounded down to the nearest 5 years, children under the age of 15 are supposed to show at their actual age.

I think this might be George Campbell's index entry on FS www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X143-XYW

So, the 1841 entry above may well be William with his two sisters and nephew.

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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:15 GMT (UK) »
The Jean Bulloch who shows as aged 15 and born in Scotland and living with John and wife Margaret in 1841 in Liverpool, I would think she is likely the daughter of Thomas and wife Agnes with the usual rounding down of age to the nearest 5 years (she was born 1822 as you have already). Have you found Thomas in 1841? John and family in 1841 at Howard Street Liverpool:

John Bullock 30 Engineer b. Scotland
Margaret Bullock 30
Thomas Bullock 7
Alice Bullock 4
John Bullock 2
Jean Bullock 3 Months
Jean Bullock 15 b. Scotland

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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Yes, i had originally thought that the Jean / Jane with John in Liverpool was his sister -- but  on sorting out the families I came to think she is the daughter of Thomas

I haven't yet found Thomas & family in 1841 in either Scotland or Liverpool

The Campbell family look promising
Now to look for a Bulloch / Campbell marriage!

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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Marriage here www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTTV-L8D, original image on SP. If father's name was mentioned, Family Search normally include it on the index.

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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks
just found the marriage on ScotlandsPeople too

Interesting to see both Thomas and Ann are "Balloch" rather than "Bulloch" in the marriage entries.

Once in Liverpool all the family are Bulloch or Bullock -- and Thomas is Bullough on death!

*adds another spelling variation to the checking list*
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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 03 January 21 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Have been checking to see if there could be a death for Ann under both surnames (Campbell/B*l*h*) but nothing so far on SP. If husband Daniel was deceased, she may have remarried as she was still young.Her and Jean could have stayed in Glasgow or maybe joined their brothers down in Lancashire?

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 03 January 21 20:05 GMT (UK) »
I think we are warming up from that 1841 census entry for possibly William and sisters.

There is this marriage showing in June 1841 in Barony www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTTJ-86J - Jean Bulloch and Richard Dixon married in Barony, June 1841.

Then there is this link from a birth & christening entry down in Liverpool the following year www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLPC-BQ1 - Ann Dixon, daughter to Richard Dixon and Ann Bulloch, June 1842.

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Re: Scottish Marriage Records
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 03 January 21 20:10 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 there is a 25 yr old George Campbell bn Scotland as a lodger at Mount Pleasant, Liverpool --occupation Architect Surveyor.
A vague possibility for the George in 1841 but probably unlikely

No definite sign of Ann in either Glasgow or Liverpool

Oh good find on Jean's marriage & child!
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