Author Topic: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?  (Read 501 times)

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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 04 January 21 22:21 GMT (UK) »
There is a series of births to Williams children with mmn Clark in Halifax, starting 1949. The spacing
would make me think they are possibly all the same family.

The only George Williams/Elsie Clark marriage on freeBMD that would fit was in Pontypool in 1947 - that timing would again raise the possibility that this is a couple who had their first child/ren within a couple of years of the wedding.

It's a long shot but might this fit?
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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04 January 21 23:30 GMT (UK) »
F M P allows one to search the 1939 using both surnames to see if there is an Elsie, of any birth dates who moves from Clark(e) to Williams - just if you wanted to explore that option.

There might be a candidate in Pontypool but of a totally different birth date, and possibly born with Elsie as a second name.

Added:  So that fits with the suggested marriage, but not with the birthdate at all.

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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Maybe her birth name was Elisabeth and she just used Elsie as shortened version
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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Where did her children think she was born, and did they have any uncles, aunts, cousins etc etc?

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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 11:46 GMT (UK) »
thanks Chempat, have asked that question and am waiting a response, she had 5 children as far as I know 2 already dead.
 
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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes,  I found some family trees on Ancestry.  None had any useful information on Elsie.

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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Yes,  I found some family trees on Ancestry. 

May also eliminate the Pontypridd marriage (and is wrong George Williams)
Place of birth, as believed to be by the informant, is given on death certs from 1 April 1969

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Re: Elsie Williams d1988, who was she?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 07 January 21 14:02 GMT (UK) »
I have come to the conclusion that George and Elsie did not marry.
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