John Edward Roberts - Born approximately 1892-1894 - Iowerth??

[Sassenach73]

Jesse (and Fanny) were children of a Robert and Hannah.  Whether that John Edward was a younger child, or an illegit child of Fanny (though she would be too young), or a child of one of the other siblings, remains to be seen. And also whether or not that John Edward is "yours" ie the one marrying Ann.
You may need that marriage cert to confirm.

1881
5 Sweetnam Row Mold-Leeswood
Robert 43 coal miner  bn Leeswood
Hannah  44 bn Mold
John 20
Margaret 14
Martha 10
Jesse 9
William 7
Sarah 5
Louisa 4
Robert 2
Fanny 4 mths

1891
same address
Robert, Hannah and William 17, Sarah 16, Louisa 15, Robert J 12, Fanny 10

Hannah now 53 so not likely to be John Edwards mother two or three years later!

He must be a child of one of Jesses siblings - either illegit of a sister or that of a brother. So need to follow each sibling and see what becomes of them!

Thank you so very much for this Heddwch - I shall work my way through the siblings lol - I can't help but think that Jesse is his father - I don't why - of course, that is just one of those "feelings" and not factual so I think the best way to go is to see what unfolds with the rest of the family Thanks for your help!

[lizdb]

If the 1892 birth is correct , this may be his birth reg:

Oct/Nov/Dec 1892
Holywell
Ref 11B 190 Occasional copy A
John Edward Roberts
mmn Hughes

[lizdb]

Jesse was single in 1911.

[osprey]

Jesse was training to be a Baptist minister in 1892

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4593641/4593644/31/

I doubt that people would have turned out for this fundraiser if there was any gossip about him.

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4594062/4594070/107/

[lizdb]

The brother John (20 in 1881) can be seen on 1891 with wife Emma - and a check of their children shows mmn to be Dew,  So we can count him out as John Edwards likely parents.

[lizdb]

I think you really need the marriage cert of "your" chap, to see who he names as father. 

[osprey]

there was also an older brother, Gomer, and he married Charlotte Garston sept qtr 1880

1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PP-7Z2

1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X91D-9QL

[Sassenach73]

If the 1892 birth is correct , this may be his birth reg:

Oct/Nov/Dec 1892
Holywell
Ref 11B 190 Occasional copy A
John Edward Roberts
mmn Hughes

Thank you Lizdb - I think I've come across this one however, I have only recently realised that the E from the 1939 register does actually stand 100% for Edward lol - I shall go back to the drawing board and see how far the Hughes/Roberts connection goes - I do have a sneaky feeling that when I followed one pairing through, the father was John Roberts also but his son turned out to be a John Frederick Roberts - my head is spinning already!   

[Sassenach73]

Jesse was training to be a Baptist minister in 1892

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4593641/4593644/31/

I doubt that people would have turned out for this fundraiser if there was any gossip about him.

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4594062/4594070/107/

Thank you Osprey, I hadn't seen this however I had only been hunting for John and Bessie in the archives up to now!  Yes, I don't think they would have been as keen to gather if there had been gossip!  Thanks again