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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou so much.
I looked up the passenger list for the Agincourt arriving 1850 and couldn’t find him.

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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 23:46 GMT (UK) »
On the “Agincourt” arriving NSW 8 April 1852 there is
John Fitzpatrick, age 21, a ploughman and farm labourer from Kilkenny Ireland, Roman Catholic, able to read and write.
With him is a brother James, age 18

Added: I think this is the wrong man - I think it is the John who married Mary Flannagan.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 14 January 21 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Do you think the John Fitzpatrick who died 23 May 1900 is the one who was married to Mary Smyth/Smith.
So born around 1816 and immigrated around 1845 at age 29


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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 14 January 21 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I do think that is probably the correct death. His age at death and immigration time could be very approximate in the newspaper report. I would look at his marriage record for a better idea of his age, and other details that might be useful in tracking him.
He may not have come directly into Adelaide. He could have arrived in any other state and made his way to SA.

Added: Another voyage of the "Agincourt" also came in to NSW in 1848 - but no sign of a John Fitzpatrick there.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #31 on: Monday 18 January 21 19:54 GMT (UK) »
This is what I’ve found . Please correct any mistakes

John Fitzpatrick b: abt 1816 d: May 23 1900 Auburn SA,aged 84 - colonist of 55 yrs
Mary Smyth/Smith b: abt 1822. d: March 23 1900 aged 84 -
colonist of  56 yrs

Chn
Thomas 1854- Dec 2 1877 Laura SA
Matthew 1855- April 15 1890 QLD
Margaret 1858!!- Aug 31 1891 Mt Barker SA
    m: Arthur Kiernan/Kearnan July 28 1879 Mt Barker SA
Elizabeth abt 1861- Sept 6 1883 New Auburn SA
William  1863 !!!
John 1865!!!
Bridget 1866!!! - Aug 4 1922
   m: John Byrne Nov 20 1873

If anyone can add further names/ dates I’d greatly appreciate it



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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 00:02 GMT (UK) »
RE... I’ve also been also trying to find when John and Mary arrived in Aust and from where they came.
From the info provided Mary must have been born about 1822 and immigrated 1850 at age 28.

A possibility for these SMITHs from Westmeath, Ireland on the ship Sultana that arrived 24 Jul 1850.
Elizabeth 43 - mother
Mary 23
Matthew 22

Is it a coincidence that two Fitzpatrick children were named Elizabeth and Matthew?

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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 00:36 GMT (UK) »
I wish it was a coincidence-but if you go by Mary Fitzpatricks death notice - she died at age 84 in 1906-which would make her 28 in 1850

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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 01:18 GMT (UK) »
What documents do you have for BDM events in the lives of the people named so far?


At reply #31

Death for Mary FITZPATRICK is 23 Mar 1906

Birth year for Bridget FITZPATRICK, married 1873, will not be 1866.  Where do you see an indication of birth year for Bridget BYRNE nee FITZPATRICK?.

The marriage certificate, FITZGERALD - SMYTH, 1853, would be useful for your research.....it is the earliest evidence you have for John FITZPATRICK and Mary SMYTH.

Names of witnesses on the marriage certificate might lead to other family  members.  Guided by her reported age at death, 1906, Mary FITZPATRICK nee SMYTH would seem to be older at marriage that usual for the times.

Where are John FITZPATRICK, died 1900.....and wife Mary FITZPATRICK died 1906.....buried.

Are there other burials in the same plot?

The Will for Mary FITZGERALD  (Familysearch) and written August 1905, names her children....John FITZPATRICK....William FITZPATRICK....Bridget BYRNE.       

The order of naming might suggest their birth order....John  before William, William before Bridget. 

Bridget lives in Clare, South Australia. Location is not used to identify her in this instance.  Does that suggest that John and William, at 1905, are also resident in South Australia?


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Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 19 January 21 01:48 GMT (UK) »
Sorry. 1866 I’d definitely the incorrect birth date for Bridget Fitzpatrick
I tried looking for the burial place for both John and Mary but no luck.
If you go by the death notices in Trove ,Mary would have been 28 when she arrived in Australia around 1850
John would have been 29 and arrived around 1845
So at time of marriage Mary 31,John 37.
2nd marriages!!!