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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 12:42 GMT (UK) »
As others have stated I think you will find Robert was not the Son of Robert/Grace,

Your Robert says he was born Blanchard.

He was the Son of Ann Nesbit who married Robert Archer in 1804.

The other Robert born 1803 to Robert/Grace is a Shoemaker on Census.

1851 Census
Willington Durham
Robert Archer   47 Shoemaker born Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland
Elisabeth Archer   47 born Brancepath, Durham
Joseph Archer   17
Elisabeth Archer   15
Jane Archer   13
Richd Archer   10

Birth Reg;
ARCHER, RICHARD mmn *SCOVER 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 102

ARCHER, JANE mmn SCORER 
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in DURHAM AND LANCHESTER  Volume 24  Page 57

Marriage;
24 May 1828  St Brandon's Church, Brancepeth, Durham
Richard Archer to Elizabeth Scorer

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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Bapts Blanchard to Robert/Ann;
JOSHUA 30 Sep 1804
JOSEPH 11 May 1806
ALEXANDER 04 Sep 1808
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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 15:23 GMT (UK) »
A friend of mine contacted me. She has Vital Records Index-British Isles.
Robert Archer Birth Date 27/10/1803 Christening Date 08/01/1804
Father George Archer Mother Grace Bowes Mother`s Father John Bowes
Recorded in Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland
Source FHL Film 1068963  Dates 1791-1807
Also this record Family Search.org
Marriage George Archer and Grace Bowes
19/12/1784 Gateshead Durham England
Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
but the Robert who was a coffee roaster is older than the one born in 1803 and was born in Blanchland, not Newcastle Upon Tyne. Different ages on census, different places of birth, different people!
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 15:46 GMT (UK) »
A friend of mine contacted me. She has Vital Records Index-British Isles.
Robert Archer Birth Date 27/10/1803 Christening Date 08/01/1804
Father George Archer Mother Grace Bowes Mother`s Father John Bowes
Recorded in Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland
Source FHL Film 1068963  Dates 1791-1807

The full records of the baptism says
Robert Archer, born October 27th [1803] baptised 1st January [1804] 6th son of George Archer mar[ine]r native of this chapelry by his wife Grace D[aughte]r of John Bowes ma[rine]r of this chapelry.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X4W9-MC?i=190&cc=1309819&cat=1809362

This is not the same Robert Archer as the one who was born at Blanchland.

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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 15:58 GMT (UK) »
but the Robert who was a coffee roaster is older than the one born in 1803 and was born in Blanchland, not Newcastle Upon Tyne. Different ages on census, different places of birth, different people!
There is only 4 years difference in ages I understand what you are saying but it is so confusing. Will have to try to sort records out.
Thank you for all your help.
Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 16:55 GMT (UK) »
from the birth regs of the children, Elizabeth's maiden name is Gilderoy or similar

Hannah Archer june qtr 1838 N-u-T vol 25 pg 310 mmn Gilderoy
Edward Archer sept qtr 1840 N-u-T vol 25 pg 327 mmn Gildercy
Margaret Archer june qtr 1844 N-u-T vol 25 pg 336 mmn Gilderry

Marriage 3 Aug 1823 for Robert Archer & Elizabeth Gilroy
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJFZ-XM2
both otp, Robert signs, Elizabeth marks, witnesses Thomas Scott, possibly the parish clerk, and Mary Coreen(?).
If the Robert born 1803 married on that date, he would have been under age.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank You. Now I understand :-[ :-[ So the Robert Archer born 1799 is the correct person.
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COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
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Re: Looking for marriage record George Archer and Grace Bowes
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 17:07 GMT (UK) »
from the birth regs of the children, Elizabeth's maiden name is Gilderoy or similar

Hannah Archer june qtr 1838 N-u-T vol 25 pg 310 mmn Gilderoy
Edward Archer sept qtr 1840 N-u-T vol 25 pg 327 mmn Gildercy
Margaret Archer june qtr 1844 N-u-T vol 25 pg 336 mmn Gilderry

Marriage 3 Aug 1823 for Robert Archer & Elizabeth Gilroy
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJFZ-XM2
both otp, Robert signs, Elizabeth marks, witnesses Thomas Scott, possibly the parish clerk, and Mary Coreen(?).
If the Robert born 1803 married on that date, he would have been under age.
Would he have had to be 21.
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE