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Name and address crossed out
« on: Wednesday 06 January 21 03:09 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone make out what is written underneath the crossed out line
Its from ship manifesto should be name & address of Bessie goldsmiths husband hia name was Rafeal sometimes known as ralph Goldshmidt became GOLDSMITH  which spellings used here ?

Ive no idea why its been crossed thru
I dont know his address in 1908 but son Abe was born year later in maywood cook district of Illinois. USA

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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 03:19 GMT (UK) »
Could it say husband of my friend but mean
Friend of my husband ?

Her English may not have been very good

I think I can read 1 av marwood or maywood .

Would it have been written by a port official who got frustrated and crossed out aggressively ...I suppose they needed the name of the permanent residence at that address and the husband wasnt permanent
1910 census has his year of immigration as 1905 hers as 1908
There adress is 420.12th av cook Illinois

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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 03:31 GMT (UK) »
"husband of Abe Fred" 
509. 9th Ave Maywood  :-\

I don't think it is crossed out, rather it is circled. Or you might be right, crossed out and circled.


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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 03:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks.for your input

She was joining her husband
rafael goldsmith

So Abe Fried would have to.be his friend or mayve husband of her friend

Might be worth seeing who lived at tat address in 1905 & 1910
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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 05:04 GMT (UK) »
Husband c/o (Care of) Abe ??

followed by the address

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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 05:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes,  Spot on Sue,  excellent


I add that I continue to use that abbreviation.  .. c/o ....  as in Care of ....    sometimes I write C/- sometimes C/o, 

If I impose on a family member to hand deliver anything from me,  I write on outside envelope:

For
Joe Blow,  C/- his Mother .... per favour of Daisy's generous time.


I read the image as
Husband C/o Abe .....

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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much ...I will try and find out who Abe fried was (there were Fried/freed family connections ) and who.lived at that address before and after the family arrived .

Can usa census be searched by address

I thought Abe FRED/Freed /Fried could belong to.line above but think they were crossed through as NOB not on board
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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Ive posted a photo.which includes Bessie and the Goldsmith.girls on photo dating site

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=842363.msg7090199#msg7090199

There is also.a clip of depature address column if you want to try deciphering that I.think it reads father in Liverpool or lithuania !!
Name looks like Arun FELL but his first names on trees and usa childrens deaths are Chaim Wolf
I cant make out other comment
Bottom line seems to be "father is in L..... "

# just found arrivalls transcription ..has them departing from Livenhoff Russia
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Re: Name and address crossed out
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 January 21 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Abe FREED was brother in law of Bessie Goldsmith married to her sister Dora FELL

Abe arrived in USA in 1904 Dora arrived 1906 & they married same year

Abe &Dora FREE  were living in Maywood  on 1910 census with baby son and Dora s sister 22 year old sister Gussie FELL
(Gustie FILL)

Abe still living 9th Av on naturalization  in 1911

Mystery solved thanks everyone

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