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Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« on: Wednesday 06 January 21 17:02 GMT (UK) »
I have been looking for the location of Carsaddle, Canonbie with no luck, even on the old maps.

On Scotlands Places there is a Carsaddle Peak
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/dumfriesshire-os-name-books-1848-1858/dumfriesshire-volume-04/142
But this is a Baptism  of  a John Armstrong to Fergus & Jannet Armstrong Carsaddle in 1793

Any ideas anyone? I have never heard of it before.

Thank you

Judy

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CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Click on the Scotlandplaces link; if you read what it says written on the right side it tells where and describes what it is.

The three individuals listed are those where the writer go his information, where they live is in brackets beside their names.

If you wish to see it Google maps street view stop halfway across the bridge over the river look south there are the rocks on the Esk maybe that's the spot.  ;)

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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 18:48 GMT (UK) »
https://iknowmyownheart.co.uk/anne-lister-diary-transcriptions/anne-lister-diary-1828/anne-lister-diary-august-1828/7-august-1828/

There is this possible reference to it from a diary in 1828:

All belong to the duke. At 8 10/60 very pretty, picturesque, wooded, white village of Gannaby (as pronounced)4. Good, new church little distance right. Broad gravel-bedded Esk just below us right & cross 3 arch bridge over it. Water very low now. Beautiful here. At 8 25/60 little village of Car-Saddle (as pronounced), white straw-thatched & some blue-slated cottages. River below. Rocky bed. Wooded banks with large, high 1 arch bridge which we cross. Very beautiful. At a short distance (right) Glenochy Castle5, Johnny Armstrong6Square tower with the 2 high gables of the ruined roof still standing at the top. 20 minutes thro’ a wood (some fine, picturesque Swiss firs in it with some good larches here & there – how [infinitely] the best of the fir-tribe the Swiss fir!) & at 8¾ cross the Esk again (2 arch bridge), pass a whisky distillery & at 8 53/60 enter the neat little town of Langholm. ‘Tis certainly a “beautiful” richly wooded drive from Longtown to Langholm.

Have a look at the corrections too. For example, from text above:

(4) pretty, picturesque, wooded, white village of Gannaby (as pronounced) Edit 4. I’m pretty sure she means Canonbie [sic.]

(5) Wooded banks with large, high 1 arch bridge which we cross. Very beautiful. At a short distance (right) Glenochy Castle Edit 5 She means Gilnockie Castle [sic.].

Very rambling travalogue! If it doesn't help with location, at least you know it seems to have been a village?

Monica
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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 19:57 GMT (UK) »
The only other thing I have been able to find, from a now defunct website (what a pity - old link that doesn't work anymore is www.longtown19.co.uk/obituaries_1840___1849.64.html) is:

The deceased for a number of years was a blacksmith at Carsaddle or Beer Burn Foot in Cannoby. He was removed from Newcastle only a few days previous to....

Also known as Byreburnfoot. See https://canmore.org.uk/site/67513/byreburnfoot  The map is a good guide I think as to where Carsaddle may have been, with the location pins of Gilnockie Castle and Byreburnfoot.

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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 20:16 GMT (UK) »
No Carsaddle showing on this list of name places in 1802. Was John's father Fergus an inn keeper?

https://relativelyscottish.com/canonbie-militia-list-1802/

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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Carsaddle Peak
 https://maps.nls.uk/view/74426684

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Re: Location of Carsaddle, Canonbie Please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 January 21 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all very much for the information & location.
Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey