Author Topic: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin  (Read 165 times)

Offline Redser8888

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Hello all!

I think I may have a breakthrough in my ancestry if I can get this dispensation wording deciphered  :)
Under "Denuntiationes" column.

All thoughts appreciated for what it says. If you click on the full pdf it is second row from the top.
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1881-1904_ma_0135

Healy & Starkey marriage. I see another couple have the same notation close to the end of the page.

Thanks for all help!

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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 18:14 GMT (UK) »
I believe it reads ... Disp. ab M(onsi)g(no)r Moran (the clergyman who issued the dispensation). His name is clearer on other pages.

Itís surely just a dispensation for marrying without banns. I believe the other entries on the page read Ter (= 'three times', referencing the calling of banns).

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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bookbox!

I had started to work out it was Mgr Moran (secretary to Dublin Archbishop)

humm ... wondering why marry without calling the bans  ???
more digging now !

thanks again!


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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 19:03 GMT (UK) »
wondering why marry without calling the bans  ???

Some suggestions here, which may or may not relate to your couple ...
http://www.brikwall.com/marrdispensations.html

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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 19:31 GMT (UK) »
What's the long heading for the final column on the opposite page? I can't enlarge it to read the tiny writing. That column is blank for all those marriages but knowing what the heading is may be helpful.
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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 20:00 GMT (UK) »
What's the long heading for the final column on the opposite page? I can't enlarge it to read the tiny writing. That column is blank for all those marriages but knowing what the heading is may be helpful.

To save typing, it's the same as reply #5 here ...
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=782447.msg6369500#msg6369500

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Re: Deciphering dispensation notation for Anna Maria Starkey & Thomas Healy - Latin
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 January 21 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bookbox. I could only read 1st word.
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