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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 January 21 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry has the Lunacy Patients Admission Registers but only up to 1912 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/9051/
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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 January 21 11:17 GMT (UK) »
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In Australia, Asylums often called Benevolent Asylums were for the poor and ill particularly those without family support.  I have a list on Trove of articles about the Parramatta NSW Benevolent Asylum--  https://trove.nla.gov.au/list/102492 -- It was an Asylum for the Infirm and Destitute -- and was separate to the Mental Asylum.

The Rookwood Asylum also NSW  became the Lidcombe State Hospital and took injured servicemen from the first and second world wars and later quadriplegics and paraplegics and those with cerebral palsy. I remember seeing wheelchair bound amputees. Most were under the age for old age nursing homes and it functioned as a permanent nursing style home for these people.

The buildings were long bungalows with sunroom verandahs , a common room and group bathrooms.  Some had long common wards and some were individual cottages.  They were surrounded by beautiful gardens particularly rose gardens and there were group outings and other activities.  They had regular nursing staff etc.
There wer no stairs and the people could roam the gardens at will.

For most residents, their disabled pension covered the cost of care. They had outings and visitors and activities.  During my visits there, I did not witness any mental illness. A relative was there until 1991 and was happy and cared for there. Most were addicted to cricket so saw a lot of that. An all female ward probably had different interests.

Only altered to correct a few spelling errors.

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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 January 21 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Derbyshire Record Office hold some records of the Derby Asylum. Their catalogue states


Creator   Kingsway Hospital, formerly Derby Borough Asylum
Description   This collection is uncatalogued. Please download document below for interim list. Summary: Patient registers, 1888-1994 (incomplete), including some case books 1888-1921; Staff Service Register, 1890s-1909; Staff Certificates of Service, Oct 1911-Jun 1948; Medical Report Books, 1888-1948 (usually summary information); Annual reports, 1889-1968 (incomplete)


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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 January 21 13:24 GMT (UK) »
A lovely pic & info. here...https://www.countyasylums.co.uk/kingsway-derby/

"Hospital Name: Kingsway
Previous Names: Derby Borough Lunatic Asylum, Derby Borough Mental Hospital
Location: Kingsway, Rowditch, Derby"


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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 January 21 18:36 GMT (UK) »
It doesnít seem worthwhile pursuing the records in view of the fact that his admission was most likely an acute medical rather than a psychiatric matter.

I think it is most unlikely that he was admitted to the asylum for an acute medical condition. Admission to an asylum was quite different from admission to a workhouse infirmary.

Anyone admitted to a county asylum after 1890 (when the Lunacy Act was passed) could only be admitted with a court Reception Order, signed by a magistrate, on the advice and medical certification of two doctors. So he will almost certainly have been diagnosed at that time with some sort of mental disorder.

The medical certificates accompanying the Reception Order may not survive, but they are often copied into the first case-book entry relating to a patient's admission. Depending on your level of interest, it would certainly be worth asking the Derbyshire Record Office if they can supply copies of those records.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 January 21 19:23 GMT (UK) »
I can confirm that my Great Grandfather's Admission Papers to Lancashire Asylum in 1894 included a covering Admission Paper with his Admission number and was headed 'Lunacy Act 1890' and also showed the name of the local area Union to which he belonged. (Hence he was probably chargeable to that Union).

The admission had been authorised by a Justice of the Peace for his town (I was amazed that the Doctor's examination, his written report and the authorisation of the Justice of the Peace were all done on the SAME day.)

The actual admission to the Lancashire Asylum - which was in a different town - was 2 days later.
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Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
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Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 08 January 21 20:56 GMT (UK) »
It doesnít seem worthwhile pursuing the records in view of the fact that his admission was most likely an acute medical rather than a psychiatric matter.

I think it is most unlikely that he was admitted to the asylum for an acute medical condition. Admission to an asylum was quite different from admission to a workhouse infirmary.

Anyone admitted to a county asylum after 1890 (when the Lunacy Act was passed) could only be admitted with a court Reception Order, signed by a magistrate, on the advice and medical certification of two doctors. So he will almost certainly have been diagnosed at that time with some sort of mental disorder.

The medical certificates accompanying the Reception Order may not survive, but they are often copied into the first case-book entry relating to a patient's admission. Depending on your level of interest, it would certainly be worth asking the Derbyshire Record Office if they can supply copies of those records.

Thank you, Bookbox. In view of this, Iíll have to give it some serious thought.

Dave

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Re: Died in asylum: mentally ill?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 08 January 21 21:10 GMT (UK) »
We obtained ggfathers hospital record several years ago from south glaorgan records office but my mother  had to sign non disclosure pripomisary form he was admitthed 1920 died there 1924

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