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Baptism needed for John Allen
« on: Friday 08 January 21 17:37 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 John Allen was living in Washwood Heath aged 7 with his father Robert and siblings. HO107/2062 358 4.

In 1861 I have him aged 17 I have him living in Washwood Heath with his parents and siblings. RG09/2186 87 34.

I have found a birth June qtr 1843 Birmingham 16 275 MMN Holloway On GRO If that his him.

On his marriage in 1865 he has father Robert gardener.

I do not have the census images to look at now so I do not know the names of his siblings because I could look on the GRO and see what their MMN are.

For his mother I have Martha Unknown but I don't know where I got that from or if that is his mothers name. Maybe that is who it says in 1861. Yet in 1851 she is not there.

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 January 21 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Info for anyone searching. John's parents were Robert Allen & Martha Adkins. Several children born 1837 onwards with mmn Adkins but cannot find John

Parents marriage 27th May 1827 Birmingham.

Robert's mother was Mary Allen b c 1765.

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 January 21 19:36 GMT (UK) »
John Allen was born 27th January 1844, baptised 11th February 1844 St Margaret, Ward End. Parents Robert & Martha occ Labourer, abode Washwood Heath. Image on Anc*

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 January 21 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John great find. Alan
Warwickshire-      Green, Mansell
Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth


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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 January 21 19:38 GMT (UK) »
That is even better. wow
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Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 January 21 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John for your help I have the image. Alan
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Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 January 21 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Sibling ALICE was bapt same place 21 Mar 1847 (birth 12 Feb 1847)
(FreeREG)

GRO;
ALLEN, ALICE mmn ADKINS **
GRO Reference: 1847  M Quarter in ASTON UNION  Volume 16  Page 231

Burials same place;
MARTHA Allen 27 Dec 1872 age 71, Wife of Robert
ROBERT Allen 21 Jul 1877 age 71
Both have abode as Washwood Heath
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1851 Martha Allen is visiting the West Family
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 January 21 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Trish.  :) :)
Warwickshire-      Green, Mansell
Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth

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Re: Baptism needed for John Allen
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 January 21 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Looks like her Daug Martha c 1833 is a Servant for the Wests.

Charles West 67
Mary West   62
Alexander Waugh 18
Mary E Walklote   2
Martha Allen   18 Servant born Aston
Martha Allen   49 Visitor Mar born Birmingham
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)