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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #486 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 10:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Garen…sorry to take up your time 😬

Not a problem! I learn from all this too :-)
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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #487 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 10:44 BST (UK) »
Here she is “The Dilbhur”
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #488 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 13:14 BST (UK) »
With regard to his court marshals, is there anywhere that I could search to learn more?
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #489 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 15:32 BST (UK) »
Sorry about this, but does anyone have any idea what this mean?
To me , it looks like
1st Div NF. CofE 13/12/85
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire


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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #490 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 15:34 BST (UK) »
Sorry about this, but does anyone have any idea what this mean?
To me , it looks like
1st Div NF. CofE 13/12/85
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #491 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 17:43 BST (UK) »
With regard to his court marshals, is there anywhere that I could search to learn more?
I think it is likely these were regimental courts martial, therefore there won't be any records other than what appears in his documents which you already have. The details of the charge(s) and outcome of such proceedings were recorded in the Regimental Conduct Book, which have generally not survived. At a later stage (around about 1890?), soldiers were given individual conduct sheets which then moved with them during their career.

A Regimental Court Martial was similar to what would be the Commanding Officer's orders today, except that a RCM was conducted by several officers of the Regiment sitting as a court. For certain military offences the punishment for which involves a fine or stoppages of pay or imprisonment, the accused soldier may elect to be tried by court martial rather than have his case heard and dealt with summarily. If a CO's powers of punishment are insufficient to deal with a particularly serious offence he will remand the soldier for a District Court Martial (DCM). A CO can only award up to 28 days imprisonment, or a fine equivalent to 28 day's pay, and reductions in rank for sergeants and below, provided that if the reduction concerns a sergeant this must be agreed  by the Brigade commander. 

More details here: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/courts-martial-desertion-british-army-17th-20th-centuries/

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #492 on: Tuesday 01 August 23 18:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you Andy J2022.
I will get straight onto that link,
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Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #493 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 09:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry about this, but does anyone have any idea what this mean?
To me , it looks like
1st Div NF. CofE 13/12/85

Sorry, Nellie - I agree with your transcription, but I can't interpret that one either. I can only think 'Church of England' when I see C of E!
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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #494 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 12:41 BST (UK) »
Sorry about this, but does anyone have any idea what this mean?
To me , it looks like
1st Div NF. CofE 13/12/85

Sorry, Nellie - I agree with your transcription, but I can't interpret that one either. I can only think 'Church of England' when I see C of E!

Thank you Garen.
Hard to think of it anything other than Church of England isn’t it?
I might pop it up on the general military board and see if it is recognisable to a wider audience.
Mayhew,Birch,Coates,Norman - Suffolk
Masters - Somerset
Richardson, Masters, Langridge, Dyer, Chambers - Sussex
Dyer, Luscombe, Hurrell - Devon
Chambers - Brecon
Lambden, Hawkins - Berkshire
Biggs, Cooper, Druce, Hedges, Haywood, Francis,Ward, Skidmore, Pinfold, Dorn, Gardener, Hopgood - Oxfordshire
Francis, Clarke - Lambeth/Surrey
Rowland, Emmett, Lockhart - Southwark/Middlesex
Simpson, Exall, Mann, Frisby,  - Kent
Ward, Teasdale, Smalwood - Yorkshire
Tomkins, Bayliss - Warwickshire